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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?
Posted by: Phil Andrews
Date/Time: 01/05/18 15:25:00

I appreciate the theory behind road closures is that some car users will turn to other forms of transport, and I also know that this strategy does sometimes work.  But it is dependent upon various other conditions also being in place, which I understand were absent in respect of the Church Street closure.  Hence my view that it was badly handled, rushed through for all the wrong reasons and conducted in a manner which left local people feeling that their opinions and ideas counted for nothing.  Surely it would have been better to have had no local consultation at all than to have one and then act in defiance of its findings?

The mishandling of the process and the inevitable resultant backlash also led to a predictable spat in which all vehicle users would be cast by some as villains, which itself generates more unnecessary bad feeling. 

If I may offer a personal anecdote - a couple of weeks ago I needed to travel from my home beside the hospital to Busch Corner, and from there back to my mother's home in Chestnut Grove (in the opposite direction just past Redlees Park).  It would never have entered my head - pre or post-closure - to have made this journey by car, but I am presently on crutches.  I walked (or hobbled) to Busch Corner with a view to catching the 267 back to my mother's.  But this would now have meant sitting on the bus for up to an hour, and so I was forced to walk to my mother's from Busch Corner, and then home again from there - a round trip of about two miles, which on crutches is not fun. 

And yet in the eyes, or at least the propaganda, of the pro-closure lobby I would be depicted as lazy or selfish.  This is the mindset which has been brought into our community by the hasty actions of one councillor, supported instinctively by colleagues in a knee-jerk act of political solidarity.

There is a real, and difficult, job of work to be done towards alleviating traffic problems in Isleworth and addressing the Church Street issue was always going to be an integral part of that process.  But when a holistic and inclusive approach was called for what we got in its place was confrontation and the needless and counter-productive flaunting of power by local representatives who still lack the maturity to wield it wisely and to resist the temptation to cock a snook at the hoi polloi.


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Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?18/03/18 12:01:00 Raymond Havelock
   Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?18/03/18 12:32:00 Vanessa Smith
      Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?18/03/18 13:08:00 Phil Andrews
         Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?19/03/18 14:25:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?19/03/18 14:58:00 Raymond Havelock
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?19/03/18 15:28:00 Vanessa Smith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?19/03/18 22:41:00 Raymond Havelock
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?19/03/18 23:12:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 14:21:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 15:06:00 Robin Dickers
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 15:32:00 Adam Beamish
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 17:09:00 Keith Iddon
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 17:50:00 Adam Beamish
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 18:22:00 Vanessa Smith
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 19:21:00 Adam Beamish
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 09:55:00 Raymond Havelock
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 09:58:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 10:03:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 10:37:00 Keith Iddon
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 11:03:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 14:32:00 Keith Iddon
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 15:36:00 Jennifer Selig
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?23/03/18 13:42:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?23/03/18 14:15:00 Tim Burrell
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?23/03/18 19:46:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                        Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 10:40:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 14:57:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 15:42:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 21:11:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 21:21:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 21:28:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 21:31:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                             Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?26/03/18 14:06:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?26/03/18 15:03:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 21:37:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?26/03/18 17:38:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?26/03/18 17:42:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?26/03/18 22:47:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/03/18 14:35:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?31/03/18 11:52:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?19/04/18 19:33:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?28/04/18 09:06:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?28/04/18 09:51:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?28/04/18 10:10:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                     Re:Re: Lamberts Folly- Church Street Closure28/04/18 12:36:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly- Church Street Closure28/04/18 13:05:00 Anne England
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly- Church Street Closure28/04/18 13:22:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?28/04/18 14:50:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?28/04/18 15:43:00 Robin Dickers
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/04/18 12:53:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/04/18 17:33:00 Robert Thorpe
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/04/18 21:51:00 Anne England
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/04/18 23:04:00 Robin Dickers
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/04/18 22:48:00 Anne England
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/04/18 19:47:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 09:01:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 10:39:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 12:19:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 13:13:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 14:13:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 14:27:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 14:41:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 14:52:00 Robin Dickers
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 18:25:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 18:51:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 21:01:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 21:11:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 21:55:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                                                                                                   Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 09:20:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 12:46:00 Scott Doyle
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 13:05:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 14:13:00 Brian McMillan
                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 14:16:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 14:33:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 14:49:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 15:25:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 16:54:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 16:58:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?02/05/18 13:52:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 15:48:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 17:46:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 17:54:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 18:04:00 Robin Dickers
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 18:40:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 20:21:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 21:41:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?04/05/18 10:48:00 Steve Taylor
   Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 18:14:00 Robert Ayres
      Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?04/05/18 15:31:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?10/05/18 15:39:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?12/05/18 12:57:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?12/05/18 15:45:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?12/05/18 16:08:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?14/05/18 11:42:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?24/05/18 16:15:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?24/05/18 18:12:00 Vanessa Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?24/05/18 18:19:00 Phil Andrews
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?24/05/18 19:20:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/05/18 00:22:00 Adam Beamish
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/05/18 12:26:00 Vanessa Smith
                                    Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/05/18 15:34:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/05/18 15:54:00 Vanessa Smith
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/05/18 18:25:00 Adam Beamish
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/05/18 14:06:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?27/05/18 08:39:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?02/07/18 14:10:00 Steve Taylor
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/07/18 07:59:00 Reg Ghosh
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/07/18 09:10:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/07/18 12:26:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                      :Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....08/10/19 13:14:00 Steve Taylor
                                                         Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....08/10/19 13:58:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                            Re:Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....08/10/19 14:39:00 Steve Taylor
                                                               Re:Re:Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....08/10/19 15:17:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                            Re:Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....09/10/19 08:44:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                               Re:Re:Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....09/10/19 10:53:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....09/10/19 12:35:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....09/10/19 16:59:00 Vanessa Smith
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?08/10/19 19:45:00 Ruth Cadbury
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?08/10/19 20:19:00 N V Brooks
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?09/10/19 07:08:00 Robin Dickers
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?09/10/19 08:49:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?09/10/19 08:52:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?09/10/19 13:50:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?11/10/19 15:10:00 Bryan Betts
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?10/10/19 11:25:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?10/10/19 13:06:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?11/10/19 15:07:00 Bryan Betts
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?11/10/19 16:23:00 Steve Taylor
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?11/10/19 17:57:00 Rob Kemp
                                                            R:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?13/10/19 12:15:00 Steve Taylor
                                                               Re:R:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?13/10/19 13:48:00 N V Brooks
                                                                  Re:Re:R:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?14/10/19 14:04:00 Steve Taylor

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