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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?
Posted by: Raymond Havelock
Date/Time: 21/03/18 09:55:00

Adam raises the point from another perspective.

The hard reality is we have authorities at too many levels who are happy to foster population growth without factoring in fully the requirements to accommodate it.

It is being concentrated in urban conurbations but by far, in London & the South East.

To a degree that we have almost reached a 24/7 culture creeping out towards the outer suburbs.

If just 20% of road traffic migrated to rail and bus, they would not be able to cope.

The small freight rail infrastructure has been removed and now largely built upon, leaving only long distance and heavy haulage facilities.
There is no space for quad tracking, passing loops or sidings.

Interestingly, quite a lot of european countries won't allow developments on disused infrastructure sites in case of future needs. So temporary uses are found.  Something that used to be done here along railway land in particular.

So Roads are the only option left for goods and services.

Far too many have to commute long distances by necessity, not by choice. Simply because the costs and jobs and living needs do not mesh otherwise.

The damage to long term quality of life is already evident but the current insane policies of cramming families into inadequate new housing is a ticking time bomb.
Nothing seems to have been learned from the social experiments of the past 50 years, most of which have failed.

It is simple stuff. If infrastructure cannot be accommodated without major damage then nor can overdensification.

TfL have revealed a 6% drop in traffic in West London. Hard to see where that is but with 7% cuts coming in bus services- even though passenger use has recently shot up, and a claimed drop in Tube revenue with looming cuts to tube services as well, one wonders what is going to happen next.

In my view it has to be quality New Towns that are well connected by all forms of transport and attractive enough to be highly desirable.

It can be done.  One only has to look at the enduring and highly sought after areas of what is known as Metro-Land to the North-West. Much of which is nearly 100 years old.


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Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?18/03/18 12:01:00 Raymond Havelock
   Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?18/03/18 12:32:00 Vanessa Smith
      Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?18/03/18 13:08:00 Phil Andrews
         Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?19/03/18 14:25:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?19/03/18 14:58:00 Raymond Havelock
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?19/03/18 15:28:00 Vanessa Smith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?19/03/18 22:41:00 Raymond Havelock
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?19/03/18 23:12:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 14:21:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 15:06:00 Robin Dickers
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 15:32:00 Adam Beamish
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 17:09:00 Keith Iddon
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 17:50:00 Adam Beamish
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 18:22:00 Vanessa Smith
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?20/03/18 19:21:00 Adam Beamish
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 09:55:00 Raymond Havelock
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 09:58:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 10:03:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 10:37:00 Keith Iddon
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 11:03:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 14:32:00 Keith Iddon
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?21/03/18 15:36:00 Jennifer Selig
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?23/03/18 13:42:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?23/03/18 14:15:00 Tim Burrell
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?23/03/18 19:46:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                        Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 10:40:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 14:57:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 15:42:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 21:11:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 21:21:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 21:28:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 21:31:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                             Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?26/03/18 14:06:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?26/03/18 15:03:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/03/18 21:37:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?26/03/18 17:38:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?26/03/18 17:42:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?26/03/18 22:47:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/03/18 14:35:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?31/03/18 11:52:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?19/04/18 19:33:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?28/04/18 09:06:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?28/04/18 09:51:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?28/04/18 10:10:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                     Re:Re: Lamberts Folly- Church Street Closure28/04/18 12:36:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly- Church Street Closure28/04/18 13:05:00 Anne England
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly- Church Street Closure28/04/18 13:22:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?28/04/18 14:50:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?28/04/18 15:43:00 Robin Dickers
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/04/18 12:53:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/04/18 17:33:00 Robert Thorpe
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/04/18 21:51:00 Anne England
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/04/18 23:04:00 Robin Dickers
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/04/18 22:48:00 Anne England
                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/04/18 19:47:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 09:01:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 10:39:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 12:19:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 13:13:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 14:13:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 14:27:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 14:41:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 14:52:00 Robin Dickers
                                                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 18:25:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 18:51:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 21:01:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                                                                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 21:11:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?30/04/18 21:55:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                                                                                                   Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 09:20:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                      Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 12:46:00 Scott Doyle
                                                                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 13:05:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 14:13:00 Brian McMillan
                                                                                                                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 14:16:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 14:33:00 Phil Andrews
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                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 15:25:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 16:54:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?01/05/18 16:58:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?02/05/18 13:52:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                                                                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 15:48:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 17:46:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 17:54:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 18:04:00 Robin Dickers
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 18:40:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 20:21:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 21:41:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Lamberts Folly -Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?04/05/18 10:48:00 Steve Taylor
   Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/05/18 18:14:00 Robert Ayres
      Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?04/05/18 15:31:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?10/05/18 15:39:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?12/05/18 12:57:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?12/05/18 15:45:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?12/05/18 16:08:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?14/05/18 11:42:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?24/05/18 16:15:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?24/05/18 18:12:00 Vanessa Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?24/05/18 18:19:00 Phil Andrews
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?24/05/18 19:20:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/05/18 00:22:00 Adam Beamish
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/05/18 12:26:00 Vanessa Smith
                                    Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/05/18 15:34:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/05/18 15:54:00 Vanessa Smith
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?25/05/18 18:25:00 Adam Beamish
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?29/05/18 14:06:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?27/05/18 08:39:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?02/07/18 14:10:00 Steve Taylor
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/07/18 07:59:00 Reg Ghosh
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/07/18 09:10:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?03/07/18 12:26:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                      :Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....08/10/19 13:14:00 Steve Taylor
                                                         Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....08/10/19 13:58:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                            Re:Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....08/10/19 14:39:00 Steve Taylor
                                                               Re:Re:Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....08/10/19 15:17:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                            Re:Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....09/10/19 08:44:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                               Re:Re:Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....09/10/19 10:53:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....09/10/19 12:35:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re: Church Street closure - continued traffic chaos..Caused by Hounslow Council.....09/10/19 16:59:00 Vanessa Smith
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?08/10/19 19:45:00 Ruth Cadbury
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?08/10/19 20:19:00 N V Brooks
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?09/10/19 07:08:00 Robin Dickers
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?09/10/19 08:49:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?09/10/19 08:52:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?09/10/19 13:50:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?11/10/19 15:10:00 Bryan Betts
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?10/10/19 11:25:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?10/10/19 13:06:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?11/10/19 15:07:00 Bryan Betts
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?11/10/19 16:23:00 Steve Taylor
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                                                            R:Re:Re:Is Church Street really the reason for such huge delays?13/10/19 12:15:00 Steve Taylor
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