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Topic: Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents
Posted by: Michael Brandt
Date/Time: 15/03/13 09:13:00

I had not thought how the hidden costs all add up.

Alex, you have either not noticed or you lived in complete isolation.  But it is quite true.
Like most I had not really thought about it or sat down and totalled up the costs.
I don't suppose anyone in Hamilton road has either yet as it's early days.

Much of the costs are by stealth and well hidden and one does not easily notice -  a bit like using an Oyster card when It's not always easy to notice you have been overcharged.

I have to admit it must be true because my company does make additional charges to addresses inside a CPZ and we have done for some years now.

Regular parking fines were wiping out whole weeks profits and compromising the time and service to clients.

Thinking about it more, my office is in a CPZ and I used to live in one as well.

It was true that a lot of tradesmen would not come to do estimates during CPZ hours and some deliveries and collections would stipulate collection from depot only.

Then with so many CPZs and loss of customers, businesses wised up.
British Gas service add on a CPZ charge to their premium calculations so do many other businesses, the same way we do.. It's hidden but it goes on if their database shows the street in a CPZ.

My own business factors in the charge that covers a permit cost which admittedly we do not mention. We do though, mention that we will  pass on a ticket fine to the client if they do not provide a parking permit or parking facility.

You have to add on how much you spend on visitor permits for family and friends who are your guests, baby sitters, child minders, carers and so on. After all do you charge your guests for tea and buns?
If you look at the hike Ealing have done, having visitors even for coffee is now a very expensive event. And way beyond the means for some. Remember, a non car owning resident also has to pay for visitors permits.


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Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!14/03/13 10:32:00 Alan Branch
   Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!14/03/13 11:16:00 Reg Ghosh
      Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!14/03/13 11:44:00 Raymond Havelock
         Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!14/03/13 11:53:00 Anthony Waller
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!14/03/13 12:56:00 Michael Brandt
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!14/03/13 17:50:00 Alan Branch
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!14/03/13 19:24:00 Anthony Waller
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!25/03/13 15:51:00 Simon Foster
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!25/03/13 16:34:00 Anthony Waller
         Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!14/03/13 13:03:00 Alex Shpinkov
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!14/03/13 13:14:00 Raymond Havelock
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!14/03/13 13:23:00 Alex Shpinkov
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!14/03/13 13:24:00 Anthony Waller
                  CPZs the true cost to residents14/03/13 19:32:00 Raymond Havelock
                     Re:CPZs the true cost to residents14/03/13 21:42:00 Gill Hutchison
                        Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents14/03/13 23:11:00 Phil Andrews
                     Re:CPZs the true cost to residents15/03/13 07:36:00 Alex Shpinkov
                        Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents15/03/13 09:13:00 Michael Brandt
                           Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents15/03/13 09:28:00 Anthony Waller
                           Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents15/03/13 09:29:00 Alex Shpinkov
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents15/03/13 09:48:00 Anthony Waller
                                 Re:CPZs the true cost to residents15/03/13 10:06:00 Andrea Hall
                                    Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents15/03/13 10:26:00 Anthony Waller
                                       Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents15/03/13 10:39:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents15/03/13 10:55:00 Michael Brandt
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents15/03/13 12:30:00 Pete Branston
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents15/03/13 12:55:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents16/03/13 12:53:00 Guy Lambert
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents16/03/13 14:00:00 Michael Brandt
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents16/03/13 15:24:00 David R Rowlands
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents16/03/13 15:39:00 Anthony Waller
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents16/03/13 20:42:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents16/03/13 21:58:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents17/03/13 06:18:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents17/03/13 19:34:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents16/03/13 20:44:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents17/03/13 10:13:00 Anthony Waller
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents17/03/13 15:24:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents17/03/13 15:45:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents17/03/13 15:49:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents17/03/13 16:44:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents17/03/13 19:01:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents17/03/13 19:47:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:CPZs the true cost to residents17/03/13 22:08:00 Raymond Havelock
         Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 11:14:00 Saul Whitmore
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 12:05:00 Anthony Waller
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 12:10:00 Raymond Havelock
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 12:15:00 Saul Whitmore
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 12:27:00 Alan Branch
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!20/03/13 11:09:00 Jennifer Selig
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!21/03/13 09:36:00 Alan Branch
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!21/03/13 12:12:00 Alex Shpinkov
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 12:30:00 Raymond Havelock
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 12:35:00 Saul Whitmore
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 12:35:00 Alex Shpinkov
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!25/03/13 15:38:00 Simon Foster
   Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!17/03/13 23:45:00 Alan Branch
      Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 12:13:00 Raymond Havelock
         Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 12:57:00 Michael Brandt
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 13:13:00 Saul Whitmore
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 13:23:00 Reg Ghosh
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 13:40:00 Michael Brandt
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cllr Matt Harmer and Parking again!!!!18/03/13 13:24:00 Michael Brandt
                  The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces24/03/13 12:10:00 David Giles
                     Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces25/03/13 16:41:00 Phil Andrews
                        Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces25/03/13 18:53:00 Vanessa Smith
                        Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces28/03/13 15:27:00 David Giles
                           Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces28/03/13 16:40:00 Phil Andrews
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces01/04/13 16:37:00 Vanessa Smith
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces01/04/13 17:54:00 Phil Andrews
                           Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces01/04/13 15:53:00 Eileen Henderson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces01/04/13 16:37:00 Saul Whitmore
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces03/04/13 13:29:00 Eileen Henderson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces03/04/13 13:39:00 Michael Brandt
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces03/04/13 14:14:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces03/04/13 15:56:00 Saul Whitmore
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces03/04/13 16:23:00 Michael Brandt
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces03/04/13 18:42:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces03/04/13 22:28:00 Claire Peleschka
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces04/04/13 02:49:00 Michael Brandt
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces04/04/13 08:05:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces04/04/13 10:01:00 Alan Branch
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces04/04/13 10:29:00 Michael Brandt
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces04/04/13 10:05:00 Michael Brandt
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces04/04/13 15:21:00 Claire Peleschka
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces04/04/13 15:36:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces04/04/13 15:52:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces04/04/13 15:59:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces04/04/13 18:23:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces04/04/13 18:53:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces05/04/13 00:14:00 Claire Peleschka
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces05/04/13 07:52:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces05/04/13 09:45:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces07/04/13 10:23:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces07/04/13 10:42:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces08/04/13 16:51:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces07/04/13 11:04:00 Michael Brandt
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces08/04/13 16:54:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces08/04/13 17:42:00 Michael Brandt
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces05/04/13 08:39:00 Saul Whitmore
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces05/04/13 09:59:00 Raymond Havelock
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces01/04/13 17:40:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces02/04/13 08:21:00 Jennifer Selig
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces02/04/13 08:31:00 Michael Brandt
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces02/04/13 08:37:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces04/04/13 15:45:00 Anthony Waller
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The introduction of CPZ's means fewer parking spaces05/04/13 10:38:00 Simon Foster

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