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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?
Posted by: Raymond Havelock
Date/Time: 15/12/16 12:00:00

People pay hugely for parking permits. It is not about parking outside ones house.
It is about being able to park within reasonable distance of one's home.

I work nights a lot and often cannot park within a 20 min walk when coming home.
Since the CPZ which fundamentally, I'm not a fan of, this has occurred less but am still often parking 2 or 3 streets away.

There are very few homes with off street parking in the Eastern end of the borough, very different from Osterley going west as the housing post dates the car.  Off road parking and even garages are incorporated. Even council houses came with garages. Unfortunately most are too small for modern cars which are getting massive and utterly ridiculous for tiny streets. Quite why anyone needs a giant Volvo, Audi, Mercedes, Range Rover or BMW to simply do the school run in this sort of urban area is beyond me.  These huge vehicles ought to be discouraged unless genuine work vehicles in which case you already pay more for commercial use insurance.

What is a fact is the car is the single means of liberation for ordinary working people. It has given opportunity and freedom to people far more than any policy or legislation has ever managed.

We don't all work down at factory at bottom of road any more. We have a choice and mobility and prosperity and not being in the hands of Rackmann type landlords and having to Cowtow to the gentry. 
The private car brought big changes where previously it was only benefitting those living by the railways.
Nor was this something that could be achieved with a bicycle. Its fine for local use but only the very fit and with youth on your side is it s serious contender for daily commutes of more than a few miles and only if you do not carry goods or tools or fragile equipment.  Time is to short and increasingly in urban commercial conurbations and economies.

Public transport in not just London but most of the UK cannot cope and can never be as versatile. It is also massively expensive in this country.
I used public transport almost entirely this year, partly by choice but also because I've not needed to take equipment to sites. But the cost is some 5 times higher than last years travel costs and I've only just noticed the huge dent that has put in the family income.  A recent trip to Birmingham was over 200 quid - one way! By car 50 in fuel there and back plus other costs still under 90. And with a passenger we split the costs.

These costs get passed on to clients and so the cycle goes. And inevitable people commute and park their cars at a point where it is cost effective. The Zone system is part of the problem here.  Notable that in East London Zone 3 has been extended further out based on the increase in development and population surge.

Exactly the same has occurred in the west notably Hounslow but it is still in Zone 4.

Crossrail is only going to increase capacity by 10%. But already that 10% is going to be absorbed by users living beyond Slough in the West. In reality the capacity will be reduced for users inside the GLA as other services on the lines used will be reduced to allow the timetable to incorporate the new line.
It will be standing room only and restrictive to anyone with bikes or baggage.

We have a problem not just because of space limits but the complete lack of joined up thinking, idealistic policies, vested interests and myopic planning.

Some could be easily solved but where are Ealing and Hounslow when it comes to getting the Zone 3 extended as far as Feltham, Hounslow Central and Northolt and Rayners Lane?


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Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 13:56:00 Debbie Richmond
   Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 16:20:00 Jane Dickinson
      Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 18:12:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 19:03:00 Paul Brownlee
      Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 21:48:00 Sarah Felstead
         :Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases03/12/16 08:55:00 John Todd
            Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases03/12/16 11:11:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases03/12/16 15:18:00 Raymond Havelock
                  Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases03/12/16 17:58:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases04/12/16 13:02:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases05/12/16 06:54:00 Philippa Bond
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases05/12/16 08:52:00 Sarah Felstead
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases05/12/16 09:07:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...04/12/16 15:54:00 Alex Shpinkov
         Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...04/12/16 18:05:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...04/12/16 18:39:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 14:57:00 Debbie Richmond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 17:28:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 17:39:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 15:20:00 Barbara Dudley
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 18:12:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 22:03:00 Philippa Bond
                        Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year... Plus?10/12/16 06:36:00 John Todd
   Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...10/12/16 20:28:00 Samantha Christie
      Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...10/12/16 21:28:00 Raymond Havelock
         Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...10/12/16 22:24:00 Samantha Christie
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 10:48:00 John Todd
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 12:48:00 Vanessa Smith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 20:48:00 Raymond Havelock
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 22:11:00 Anne England
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 22:43:00 Raymond Havelock
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 22:55:00 Bernard Allen
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 23:26:00 Anne England
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 02:11:00 Samantha Christie
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 09:48:00 Anne England
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 09:49:00 Raymond Havelock
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 09:29:00 Bernard Allen
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 10:48:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 12:51:00 Guy Lambert
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 13:16:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 14:10:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 15:59:00 Bernard Allen
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 18:09:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 18:34:00 Paul Brownlee
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 21:52:00 Bernard Allen
                                                         Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 08:58:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                            Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 10:06:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                               Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 10:41:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 11:18:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 14:10:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 22:16:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 10:19:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 15:32:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 16:31:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 20:04:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 11:42:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 12:02:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 13:01:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 13:16:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 13:49:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 14:33:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 23:37:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?15/12/16 12:00:00 Raymond Havelock
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