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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?
Posted by: Raymond Havelock
Date/Time: 14/12/16 20:04:00

You have answered your own question.
If not enough Permits are sold then the problem is solved in that the problem was being caused by non residents, commuters or people from developments built with out parking.

They are imperfect but do make life easier especially in cramped areas.
But using the cost as a took fro prising money out of ordinary residents on ordinary incomes and inferring that they may be wealthier than others is obscene.

All residents over 75 in a CPZ ought to have free permits and certainly free a free visitors permit.

It actually costs nothing. Because it is artificial.

In fact some CPZs have more permit holders than spaces.  In BRS after the ban it is still difficult to find a space late at might. But a closer look walking a few streets home and pretty much every vehicle has a permit.

In other areas where there is an abundance of off street parking then it is a different story. But the problem may well be commuters or long term parkers who use the airport of commute into London and leave the car where they can and stay in flats nearer town. I have several colleagues who do this and leave cars in Northolt and live in flats around Paddington and Shepherds Bush for the week.

As for values on property. Estate Agents are masters at turning negatives into positives and laying it on thick.  If you read my remarks, I mentioned that the insatiable demand negated and negativity. But in Bromsgrove, Chester, parts of Bristol and some outer suburbs this has been and is a problem knocking back values of properties in similar streets and demographics
I was in Wolverton today and this is a big issue with a parking restrictions in two roads having put a big dent in house values and a premium in others. All because the station is nearby. But residents had a free permit system for nearly 30 years.

There is loads of S106 money and it's not been used very well.

Not that it's made very open to local input, and apparently overseen by the cabinet portfolio holder for public engagement.

The same as street cleaning. What ever happened to residents sweeping their own path and pavement and gutter outside their homes?

When I was younger it was a mix of grandparents, or one of our chores to do every week. Most ( but not all ) neighbours did the same.  The street cleaners than just trundled along and cleared up the neat little piles and anything untoward.

Why is this not at least encouraged and those who do bother helping keep their street clean commended in some way?

I think the wheelie bin and recycling thing has now dragged things down a few notches and too many are giving up bothering to keep things neat and tidy when every week it all gets flung around and all the paraphernalia is just left laying about with nowhere to be placed tidily in too many small frontages.

A big step backwards in my opinion.


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   Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 16:20:00 Jane Dickinson
      Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 18:12:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 19:03:00 Paul Brownlee
      Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 21:48:00 Sarah Felstead
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            Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases03/12/16 11:11:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases03/12/16 15:18:00 Raymond Havelock
                  Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases03/12/16 17:58:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases04/12/16 13:02:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases05/12/16 06:54:00 Philippa Bond
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases05/12/16 08:52:00 Sarah Felstead
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases05/12/16 09:07:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...04/12/16 15:54:00 Alex Shpinkov
         Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...04/12/16 18:05:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...04/12/16 18:39:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 14:57:00 Debbie Richmond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 17:28:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 17:39:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 15:20:00 Barbara Dudley
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 18:12:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 22:03:00 Philippa Bond
                        Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year... Plus?10/12/16 06:36:00 John Todd
   Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...10/12/16 20:28:00 Samantha Christie
      Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...10/12/16 21:28:00 Raymond Havelock
         Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...10/12/16 22:24:00 Samantha Christie
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 10:48:00 John Todd
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 12:48:00 Vanessa Smith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 20:48:00 Raymond Havelock
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 22:11:00 Anne England
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 22:43:00 Raymond Havelock
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 22:55:00 Bernard Allen
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 23:26:00 Anne England
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 02:11:00 Samantha Christie
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 09:48:00 Anne England
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 09:49:00 Raymond Havelock
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 09:29:00 Bernard Allen
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 10:48:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 12:51:00 Guy Lambert
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 13:16:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 14:10:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 15:59:00 Bernard Allen
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 18:09:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 18:34:00 Paul Brownlee
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 21:52:00 Bernard Allen
                                                         Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 08:58:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                            Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 10:06:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                               Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 10:41:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 11:18:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 14:10:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 22:16:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 10:19:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 15:32:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 16:31:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 20:04:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 11:42:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 12:02:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 13:01:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 13:16:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 13:49:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 14:33:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 23:37:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?15/12/16 12:00:00 Raymond Havelock
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