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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...
Posted by: Samantha Christie
Date/Time: 12/12/16 02:11:00

The matter of income from CPZs was discussed at the Housing & Environment Scrutiny Panel.  Here is the report that went.  http://democraticservices.hounslow.gov.uk/documents/s124246/CPZ%20briefing%20final%20100316.pdf

To consider the issue in more detail, this report (http://www.hounslow.gov.uk/parking_and_traffic_enforcement_report_2015.pdf) for 2014/15 shows that parking, which includes income from permits and also PCNs, accrued a net income to the council of around £7.5m, permits of all types equating to around £2m of that figure.  The outgoing costs on paying for the administration of blue badge applications and concessionary fares (freedom passes) for this same period was £9.3m.  So in total the council made a net loss in the service area.  The income accrued to us through the sale of permits is therefore very small in terms of the council's overall finances.

Looking at the issue in more detail, and to take the example of a recent scheme we have implemented for around 650 properties (namely Brentford North CPZ extension) we calculated that the one-off cost of the scheme - capital expenditure on lines, signs etc; officer time; traffic regulation orders etc - it was in the vicinity of £50k.  The income from permits from that first year was around £18k.  It therefore can take a fair amount of time for a scheme to be paid back and of course there is no guarantee of that as we can't make people buy a permit.  What we haven't included is any ongoing costs associated with the potential maintenance and review/alteration of a scheme, administration of permits, enforcement etc.

I would therefore state categorically to anyone that asks that we do not implement CPZs for profit.  Our motivation stems entirely from the desire of residents for us to control access to parking spaces on their roads in their favour, although as discussed in the report that went to scrutiny there are also some other positive policy implications of their provision.  We only commence the process of consulting on them when we have a petition from residents to do so.  They then go through at least two and usually three rounds of consultation taking between 12 and 18 months.  We only then go on to implement them when there is majority support for a scheme.

I would also say that looking at neighbouring boroughs prices (Ealing, Richmond, Hammersmith) we are still a fair bit cheaper than them.

Finally in my ward- Bedfont- we dont have any council CPZ- and yes we are one of the most deprived (unfortunately) and when I talk to people on the Waterloo estate- the next road from me where parking is tough as a result of people parking there to save money using the train station car park- residents on thw waterloo estate are worried about the cost of the scheme so despite taking a long time to find parking for financial reasons they will vote against it- so in the poorer parts of the borough we do not have as many CPZ


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Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 13:56:00 Debbie Richmond
   Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 16:20:00 Jane Dickinson
      Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 18:12:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 19:03:00 Paul Brownlee
      Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...02/12/16 21:48:00 Sarah Felstead
         :Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases03/12/16 08:55:00 John Todd
            Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases03/12/16 11:11:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases03/12/16 15:18:00 Raymond Havelock
                  Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases03/12/16 17:58:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases04/12/16 13:02:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases05/12/16 06:54:00 Philippa Bond
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases05/12/16 08:52:00 Sarah Felstead
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Hounslow Council increase  in council tax - plus other increases05/12/16 09:07:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...04/12/16 15:54:00 Alex Shpinkov
         Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...04/12/16 18:05:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...04/12/16 18:39:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 14:57:00 Debbie Richmond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 17:28:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 17:39:00 Philippa Bond
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 15:20:00 Barbara Dudley
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 18:12:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...09/12/16 22:03:00 Philippa Bond
                        Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year... Plus?10/12/16 06:36:00 John Todd
   Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...10/12/16 20:28:00 Samantha Christie
      Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...10/12/16 21:28:00 Raymond Havelock
         Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...10/12/16 22:24:00 Samantha Christie
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 10:48:00 John Todd
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 12:48:00 Vanessa Smith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 20:48:00 Raymond Havelock
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 22:11:00 Anne England
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 22:43:00 Raymond Havelock
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 22:55:00 Bernard Allen
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...11/12/16 23:26:00 Anne England
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 02:11:00 Samantha Christie
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 09:48:00 Anne England
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 09:49:00 Raymond Havelock
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 09:29:00 Bernard Allen
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 10:48:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 12:51:00 Guy Lambert
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 13:16:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 14:10:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 15:59:00 Bernard Allen
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 18:09:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 18:34:00 Paul Brownlee
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Council to put up council tax next year...12/12/16 21:52:00 Bernard Allen
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                                                            Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 10:06:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                               Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 10:41:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 11:18:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 14:10:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?13/12/16 22:16:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 10:19:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 15:32:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 16:31:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?14/12/16 20:04:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 11:42:00 Guy Lambert
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                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 13:16:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 13:49:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another fancy pants scheme?16/12/16 14:33:00 Sarah Felstead
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