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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane
Posted by: Raymond Havelock
Date/Time: 27/06/20 10:42:00

The assumption is that ALL people driving simply get into their cars and drive a short distance.
There has not been one survey on what people actually use a car for.

With so many businesses now looking at moving out of this part of London and relocating to areas of lower costs and space to expand many will have no choice but to return to using a car just to commute.

Is it really responsible to make things as awkward as possible and thus damage what limited down time residents have for normal life?
What are the consequences of seeing families less and not being able to get things done?

All this has to be factored in. It is not a twee world with people working from a laptop and carrying no more than a small bag to work.

Clearly those who advocate this initiatives don't carry anything to work or have others to look after.  I wish!

Not everyone can walk or cycle safely or any sort of distance.

We all live a lot longer but that does not mean our faculties last longer.

Hips Knees and joints , Arthritis affects 1 in 3 over 60 and that's just one of many ailments that begin to restrict easy movement.

Years ago people did not live long enough to enjoy retirement. Many just ended up pretty much confined to home and the furthest they got was a local shop or the post office. That now means a far longer journey just to find a Post Office.

Pavements in most of this district are appalling in Both ealing and Hounslow boroughs. Falls are common for those who can't drive and back streets still poor with potholes and ruts. and the slime from Lime tree lines roads makes cycling really hazardous in the wet and dark. You've got to be on your toes all the time when out on the bike is several streets.  But no-one knows what people use their cars for . What they carry?
Far too many assumptions are made.

I walk, cycle and drive all based on what the needs are.  I take people to hospital appointments or my wife does, we've always done that.  We used to take a blind couple to Victoria Coach station for years for their annual holiday. That stopped because the charges are to much to bear.  They found taxis too costly and the tube and bus impossible with luggage and they aged like all of us.

But these are all part of older life . If you are fit and fully able then you are lucky but for many working hard with little time spare takes it's toll and for many using a car is the only way to have some semblance of having a reasonable quality of life and attend to family needs.

For many walking or cycling is desirable but impractical. 


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Occupation Lane 22/06/20 09:04:00 Julie Brooker
   Re:Occupation Lane 22/06/20 21:58:00 Guy Lambert
      Re:Re:Occupation Lane 23/06/20 12:58:00 Raymond Havelock
         Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 23/06/20 13:49:00 Guy Lambert
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 23/06/20 14:03:00 Raymond Havelock
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 14:21:00 Mrs Deborah Burns
      Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 14:06:00 Mrs Deborah Burns
   Re:Occupation Lane 23/06/20 14:04:00 Raymond Havelock
      Re:Re:Occupation Lane 23/06/20 22:41:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 24/06/20 04:48:00 Bernadette Paul
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 24/06/20 19:13:00 Raymond Havelock
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 25/06/20 22:31:00 Guy Lambert
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 08:37:00 Bernard Allen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 10:14:00 Raymond Havelock
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 11:17:00 Bernard Allen
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 14:03:00 Philip Baker
   Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 14:19:00 John Dickinson
   Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 14:21:00 Mrs Deborah Burns
      Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 14:28:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 15:07:00 Mrs Deborah Burns
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 16:14:00 Bernard Allen
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 16:40:00 Raymond Havelock
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 16:52:00 Raymond Havelock
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 16:53:00 Raymond Havelock
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 18:18:00 David R Rowlands
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 20:17:00 Bernard Allen
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 27/06/20 10:42:00 Raymond Havelock
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 20:45:00 N V Brooks
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 21:40:00 Guy Lambert
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 26/06/20 22:39:00 N V Brooks
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 27/06/20 09:23:00 Guy Lambert
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 27/06/20 10:08:00 Raymond Havelock
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 27/06/20 12:28:00 Bernard Allen
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 27/06/20 11:07:00 N V Brooks
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 27/06/20 13:53:00 Bernard Allen
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 27/06/20 14:20:00 Guy Lambert
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 27/06/20 14:41:00 N V Brooks
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 27/06/20 16:10:00 Raymond Havelock
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 28/06/20 06:32:00 Bernadette Paul
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 28/06/20 11:51:00 Anne England
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 28/06/20 13:40:00 N V Brooks
                                                   Occupation Lane 28/06/20 16:21:00 Bernard Allen
                                                      Re:Occupation Lane 28/06/20 16:29:00 N V Brooks
                                                         Re:Re:Occupation Lane 28/06/20 17:04:00 Bernard Allen
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 28/06/20 17:47:00 N V Brooks
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 28/06/20 20:06:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 28/06/20 20:36:00 N V Brooks
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 28/06/20 21:55:00 N V Brooks
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 29/06/20 10:36:00 Raymond Havelock
   Re:Occupation Lane 01/07/20 14:10:00 Mrs Deborah Burns
      Re:Re:Occupation Lane 16/07/20 20:02:00 Nick Jenkins
         Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 16/07/20 20:36:00 John William Selfe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 17/07/20 07:08:00 Raymond Havelock
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 17/07/20 16:48:00 Mrs Deborah Burns
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 17/07/20 16:56:00 N V Brooks
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 17/07/20 20:59:00 Peter Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 17/07/20 23:43:00 Guy Lambert
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 18/07/20 09:58:00 N V Brooks
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 18/07/20 11:30:00 Raymond Havelock
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 20/07/20 20:45:00 Bernard Allen
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 20/07/20 23:14:00 Guy Lambert
                                    Re:Occupation Lane 21/07/20 16:20:00 Bernard Allen
                                       Re:Re:Occupation Lane 21/07/20 22:21:00 Guy Lambert
                                          Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 27/07/20 11:53:00 Guy Lambert
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn06/08/20 10:47:00 Mark Hammond
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn06/08/20 14:48:00 Bernard Allen
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn06/08/20 15:41:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn06/08/20 15:42:00 Guy Lambert
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn06/08/20 16:42:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn06/08/20 17:54:00 Bernard Allen
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn06/08/20 22:11:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn06/08/20 22:18:00 Guy Lambert
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn06/08/20 23:44:00 Bernard Allen
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn07/08/20 07:46:00 Mark Hammond
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn07/08/20 09:11:00 N V Brooks
                                                                  Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn07/08/20 11:06:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                     Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn07/08/20 11:22:00 N V Brooks
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn07/08/20 11:30:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn07/08/20 12:22:00 N V Brooks
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn07/08/20 12:46:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn08/08/20 19:24:00 Bernard Allen
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn08/08/20 23:02:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane closure & Chestnut Avenue no right turn09/08/20 09:53:00 N V Brooks
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Occupation Lane 07/08/20 18:55:00 John Dickinson

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