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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors
Posted by: Phil Andrews
Date/Time: 10/07/12 14:17:00

Adam

I don't intend this as a put-down in any way but member panels were only convened when a chief officer was being appointed.  Candidates for more junior officer posts would usually be interviewed, and taken on (or not, as the case may be), by senior officers.

It would not be my usual practice to publicly criticise an officer by name, for the reasons that you have given.  However the "deal" has to be that that officer will respect the boundaries imposed by his or her office and not attempt to exceed them.  When a chief officer actively attempts to subvert or interfere in any way with the democratic process, as certainly happened in this case, then as far as I'm concerned all bets are off.

To my recollection I have only once before publicly criticised a senior officer by name in the way that Paul has here and that was, once again, when said officer overstepped his brief (in that instance he announced that he would not co-operate with me as an elected member because he apparently disagreed with the verdict of the electorate.  As karma would have it I later became his Lead Member and he swiftly moved on to pastures new, an arrangement which suited us both).

It doesn't surprise me to hear that you learned lessons from Mr Jordan.  Although you always present your views on this forum with civility, respect and grace I do to be honest find some of your statements concerning the role of the wider community in the decision-making process quite frightening, and for that reason I am glad you will not be applying for the vacant post.

That does not mean I do not wish you all the very best with your future career, of course.


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Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors07/07/12 08:35:00 Paul Fisher
   Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors07/07/12 08:39:00 Paul Fisher
      Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors07/07/12 09:39:00 Anthony Waller
         Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors07/07/12 09:53:00 Paul Fisher
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors07/07/12 14:28:00 Jim Lawes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors07/07/12 15:28:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors07/07/12 16:01:00 Phil Andrews
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors07/07/12 17:32:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors07/07/12 21:08:00 Jim Lawes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors08/07/12 15:07:00 Phil Andrews
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors09/07/12 23:05:00 Asif Rana
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors09/07/12 23:56:00 Phil Andrews
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors10/07/12 00:27:00 Asif Rana
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors10/07/12 07:03:00 Phil Andrews
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors10/07/12 08:19:00 Paul Fisher
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors10/07/12 08:29:00 Phil Andrews
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors10/07/12 11:43:00 Vanessa Smith
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors10/07/12 11:58:00 Paul Fisher
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors10/07/12 13:29:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors10/07/12 13:55:00 Adam Beamish
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors10/07/12 14:16:00 Paul Fisher
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors10/07/12 14:17:00 Phil Andrews
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors10/07/12 22:00:00 Adam Beamish
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors11/07/12 07:17:00 Phil Andrews
                                                               Phil Andrew's memory11/07/12 07:58:00 John Todd
                                                                  Re:Phil Andrew's memory11/07/12 08:00:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                     Re:Re:Phil Andrew's memory11/07/12 08:50:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Phil Andrew's memory11/07/12 15:53:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Phil Andrew's memory11/07/12 17:56:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Phil Andrew's memory16/07/12 18:49:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Phil Andrew's memory16/07/12 19:27:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Phil Andrew's memory16/07/12 20:42:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Phil Andrew's memory14/07/12 11:34:00 Steve Taylor
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors11/07/12 09:01:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors12/07/12 18:00:00 Claire Peleschka
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors13/07/12 17:48:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors13/07/12 17:54:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors15/07/12 22:21:00 Theo Dennison
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors15/07/12 22:31:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors16/07/12 12:10:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors16/07/12 12:52:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                                                 What is being done:18/07/12 00:19:00 Theo Dennison
                                                                                    Re:What is being done:18/07/12 00:33:00 Asif Rana
                                                                                       Re:Re:What is being done:18/07/12 08:41:00 Theo Dennison
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:What is being done:18/07/12 08:54:00 Paul Fisher
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:18/07/12 15:24:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:21/07/12 01:48:00 Theo Dennison
                                                                                                   :Re:Re:What is being done:21/07/12 08:34:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:What is being done:18/07/12 22:40:00 Asif Rana
                                                                                       Re:Re:What is being done:18/07/12 09:28:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:What is being done:18/07/12 22:55:00 Asif Rana
                                                                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:19/07/12 08:36:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:19/07/12 16:47:00 Theo Dennison
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:19/07/12 20:47:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:20/07/12 00:24:00 Theo Dennison
                                                                                                         :Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:20/07/12 06:53:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                            Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:20/07/12 22:31:00 Theo Dennison
                                                                                                               Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:22/07/12 14:13:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                  Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:23/07/12 20:19:00 Theo Dennison
                                                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:23/07/12 21:12:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:26/07/12 20:53:00 Theo Dennison
                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:26/07/12 22:20:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                     :Re:Re:What is being done:24/07/12 19:12:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                                        Re::Re:Re:What is being done:26/07/12 20:32:00 Theo Dennison
                                                                                                                           Re:Re::Re:Re:What is being done:27/07/12 00:24:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:20/07/12 08:59:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:20/07/12 11:17:00 John Connelly
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is being done:20/07/12 12:37:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hounslow Officers run the Council not your elected councillors13/07/12 18:10:00 Vanessa Smith
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