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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.
Posted by: Lorne Gifford
Date/Time: 28/06/17 13:04:00

I’m sorry to say you’re wrong Mick. Countless studies have shown that whilst people will talk very loudly about being green and environmental, their purchasing decisions are driven solely by their wallets; people bought diesel cars simply because they were cheaper to run. 

Diesel owners don’t really give a stuff that four times the nitrogen dioxide and a whopping 20 times the particulates come out of their stinky exhausts. Been known about and publicised for years, so whilst you can claim ignorance I’m afraid it’s not a very good excuse. Those emissions are now so far above legal and safety limits that the government is being sued (going through the courts at the moment) and will probably react by using taxation to change diesel cars from economic-to-run to bloomin-expensive.  Their marginally lower CO2 emissions are no longer interesting as all greenhouse gas targets are being met by the massive change in how we generate electricity, which is also driven by economics, but has the nice side-line that it’s a lot ‘greener'.

I’d suggest getting rid of any diesel car pretty pronto, because they’ll likely be unsellable at some point.  Then you can be like me and delight in finally coming across a tax that ‘someone else has to pay’.

Anyway if you bought a diesel solely because it was ‘green’, why didn’t you buy a hybrid as they're much greener, if a little more expensive.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.21/06/17 11:21:00 Mick Brent
   Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.21/06/17 11:53:00 Vanessa Smith
      Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.21/06/17 18:36:00 Theo Dennison
         Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.21/06/17 18:47:00 Mick Brent
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.21/06/17 19:31:00 Vanessa Smith
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.21/06/17 19:37:00 Warrick Chamberlain
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.21/06/17 20:38:00 Vanessa Smith
         Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.21/06/17 21:14:00 Alex Shpinkov
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.22/06/17 06:23:00 Nicholas Beard
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.22/06/17 08:23:00 Alex Shpinkov
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.22/06/17 21:00:00 Robert Smith
         Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.26/06/17 16:57:00 Robert Ayres
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.26/06/17 17:12:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.23/06/17 14:05:00 Rod de St Croix
      Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.28/06/17 09:19:00 Lorne Gifford
         Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.28/06/17 11:11:00 Mick Brent
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.28/06/17 11:43:00 Reg Ghosh
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.28/06/17 13:04:00 Lorne Gifford
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.28/06/17 19:13:00 Rod de St Croix
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.28/06/17 14:47:00 Nicholas Beard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.28/06/17 17:25:00 Reg Ghosh
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.29/06/17 07:53:00 Raki Smith
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.29/06/17 08:14:00 Nicholas Beard
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.29/06/17 09:20:00 Lorne Gifford
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.29/06/17 09:32:00 Nicholas Beard
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.29/06/17 10:47:00 Rod de St Croix
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.29/06/17 11:15:00 Lorne Gifford
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.29/06/17 11:31:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.29/06/17 16:03:00 Claire Peleschka
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.29/06/17 21:27:00 Chris White
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.30/06/17 06:06:00 Nicholas Beard
                                       By the way, here is a reasonable alternative view on the whole diesel car saga01/07/17 16:53:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.30/06/17 18:11:00 Rod de St Croix
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.01/07/17 16:55:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.01/07/17 18:01:00 Nicholas Beard
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.01/07/17 19:46:00 Rod de St Croix
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.06/07/17 16:06:00 Robert Ayres
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.06/07/17 16:27:00 Nicholas Beard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.30/06/17 13:00:00 Bryan Betts
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.30/06/17 13:12:00 Nicholas Beard
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.02/07/17 13:36:00 Philippa Bond
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.02/07/17 13:38:00 Nicholas Beard
                              Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.02/07/17 22:22:00 Philippa Bond
                                 Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.02/07/17 22:27:00 Philippa Bond
                                    Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.05/07/17 00:13:00 Warrick Chamberlain
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.05/07/17 06:16:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.05/07/17 07:11:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.05/07/17 07:41:00 Rod de St Croix
         Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.06/07/17 11:19:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.05/07/17 08:04:00 Rod de St Croix
      Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.05/07/17 08:10:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.06/07/17 11:52:00 Rod de St Croix
      Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.07/07/17 01:39:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.07/07/17 04:45:00 Nicholas Beard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.07/07/17 06:42:00 Mick Brent
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.07/07/17 06:46:00 Nicholas Beard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.07/07/17 11:16:00 Bryan Betts
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.07/07/17 08:57:00 Nicholas Beard
         Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.07/07/17 08:52:00 Tim Henderson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.07/07/17 08:59:00 Nicholas Beard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposed CPZ surcharge on diesel cars.07/07/17 10:43:00 Mick Brent

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