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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?
Posted by: Robin Taylor
Date/Time: 02/06/09 16:07:00

I wasn't aware that you "unallied" yourselves with the HRG in 1998. True, I remember you doing some public window dressing by taking them to task about how chummy they were with the Tories (which, in retrospect, now seems slightly ironic) but you remained essentially allied to one another for many years thereafter. I have a copy somewhere of the letter that the HRG secretary wrote endorsing your candidature on the eve of the 2002 local election.

Please do not pretend that you did not know what they were about when they established themselves in 1996. They made it clear that they opposed the alleged preferential treatment given to Asian people (a complete myth, by the way) were rampantly anti-refugee and anti-asylum seeker and even talked about "strangling" equal opportunities.

Arguably, their rhetoric often reflected that of the far right.

The two people who were respectively chair and secretary of the HRG continue, to this day, to be among your most enthusiatic vocal supporters.

The problem, as I see it, is this: you are quite happy to enjoy the support of those who think you have not really changed. Yet you demand that people with more progressive views accept that you have changed.

It's called having your cake and eating it.

Finally, regarding your claim that I cannot understand that it is possible to combine honest disagreement with basic human respect. Oh, but can I. I'm just interested in the fact that you still reserve your most severe scorn for the very same people that you were opposing when you were in the National Front.


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Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?03/03/09 22:44:00 Conal Stewart
   Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 00:04:00 Paul Fisher
      Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 02:12:00 Victor Mullins
         Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 11:44:00 Phil Andrews
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 12:57:00 Kath Richardson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 13:22:00 Paul Fisher
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 15:42:00 Phil Andrews
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?05/03/09 23:17:00 Andrew Dakers
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?31/05/09 13:06:00 Conal Stewart
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?31/05/09 15:32:00 Phil Andrews
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?31/05/09 21:03:00 Dave Hughes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?31/05/09 21:11:00 Phil Andrews
      Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?05/03/09 23:15:00 Andrew Dakers
   Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 16:09:00 Dave Hughes
      Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 16:54:00 Phil Andrews
         Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 17:08:00 Dave Hughes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 17:39:00 Phil Andrews
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 17:42:00 Dave Hughes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 17:49:00 Dave Hughes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 18:07:00 Phil Andrews
         Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?31/05/09 13:07:00 Conal Stewart
   Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 17:23:00 Dave Hughes
      Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 17:32:00 Paul Fisher
         Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 17:38:00 Dave Hughes
         Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 17:38:00 Dave Hughes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 17:49:00 Alan Clark
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 18:00:00 Dave Hughes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 18:18:00 Phil Andrews
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 18:26:00 Alan Clark
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 19:58:00 Dave Hughes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 22:58:00 Phil Andrews
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 20:04:00 Dave Hughes
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 20:11:00 Adam Beamish
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 20:32:00 Dave Hughes
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 20:47:00 Adam Beamish
                        How much has price waterhouse cost the council so far04/03/09 20:40:00 Dave Hughes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 17:50:00 Phil Andrews
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 17:57:00 Dave Hughes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 18:05:00 Dave Hughes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 18:09:00 Phil Andrews
   Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?04/03/09 21:48:00 Andrew Michael John Atkinson
   Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?05/03/09 21:56:00 Corinna Smart
      Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?05/03/09 22:07:00 Corinna Smart
         Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?06/03/09 00:16:00 Phil Andrews
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?06/03/09 17:31:00 Corinna Smart
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?06/03/09 18:05:00 Phil Andrews
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?07/03/09 09:46:00 Corinna Smart
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?07/03/09 12:46:00 Phil Andrews
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?07/03/09 13:17:00 Dave Hughes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?07/03/09 13:17:00 Dave Hughes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?07/03/09 13:30:00 Phil Andrews
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?07/03/09 13:58:00 Dave Hughes
                        Move over Brad Pitt...07/03/09 14:09:00 Phil Andrews
                           Re:Move over Brad Pitt...07/03/09 15:23:00 Dave Hughes
                           Re:Move over Brad Pitt...07/03/09 15:23:00 Dave Hughes
                              Re:Re:Move over Brad Pitt...07/03/09 15:33:00 Phil Andrews
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?07/03/09 22:04:00 Andrew Michael John Atkinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?08/03/09 07:58:00 Dave Hughes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?08/03/09 09:04:00 Phil Andrews
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?08/03/09 09:27:00 Dave Hughes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?08/03/09 09:32:00 Phil Andrews
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?07/03/09 14:01:00 Dave Hughes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?07/03/09 22:08:00 Andrew Michael John Atkinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?31/05/09 13:02:00 Conal Stewart
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?31/05/09 17:06:00 Colin Murphy
   Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?07/03/09 12:27:00 Dave Hughes
      Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?31/05/09 13:12:00 Conal Stewart
         Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?31/05/09 14:05:00 Phil Andrews
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?02/06/09 01:23:00 Robin Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?02/06/09 01:50:00 Phil Andrews
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?02/06/09 02:07:00 Robin Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?02/06/09 02:19:00 Phil Andrews
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?02/06/09 11:13:00 Robin Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?02/06/09 12:06:00 Phil Andrews
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?02/06/09 16:07:00 Robin Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?02/06/09 17:11:00 Phil Andrews
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?02/06/09 19:25:00 Robin Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?02/06/09 19:55:00 Phil Andrews
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?02/06/09 21:32:00 Robin Taylor
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?03/06/09 03:31:00 Phil Andrews
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our 03/06/09 07:50:00 Dave Hughes
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our 03/06/09 07:57:00 Phil Andrews
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing t03/06/09 10:57:00 Dave Hughes
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing t03/06/09 12:57:00 Phil Andrews
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories d03/06/09 14:34:00 Dave Hughes
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?03/06/09 10:41:00 Robin Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?03/06/09 11:38:00 Phil Andrews
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just what are the Tories and Junior Tories doing to our borough?03/06/09 14:05:00 Robin Taylor
   Don't suppose somebody could explain ...07/03/09 14:22:00 Sarah Felstead
      Re:Don't suppose somebody could explain ...08/03/09 14:09:00 Tim Henderson
         Re:Re:Don't suppose somebody could explain ...08/03/09 14:46:00 S Passmore
            Re:Re:Re:Don't suppose somebody could explain ...04/06/09 22:11:00 Steve Taylor
      Re:Don't suppose somebody could explain ...08/03/09 16:03:00 Vanessa Smith
         Re:Re:Don't suppose somebody could explain ...31/05/09 23:09:00 Dan Filson
            Stop the scrapping and focus on the issues!02/06/09 03:01:00 Dan Filson
               Re:Stop the scrapping and focus on the issues!02/06/09 04:17:00 Phil Andrews
                  Re:Re:Stop the scrapping and focus on the issues!02/06/09 10:43:00 Dan Filson
                     Re:Re:Re:Stop the scrapping and focus on the issues!02/06/09 10:49:00 Phil Andrews
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Stop the scrapping and focus on the issues!02/06/09 11:58:00 Dan Filson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stop the scrapping and focus on the issues!02/06/09 12:31:00 Phil Andrews
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stop the scrapping and focus on the issues!02/06/09 15:35:00 Dan Filson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stop the scrapping and focus on the issues!02/06/09 15:38:00 Dan Filson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stop the scrapping and focus on the issues!02/06/09 16:06:00 Dave Hughes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stop the scrapping and focus on the issues!02/06/09 17:21:00 Phil Andrews
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stop the scrapping and focus on the issues!02/06/09 17:41:00 Phil Andrews

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