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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right
Posted by: Anthony Waller
Date/Time: 23/01/13 19:05:00

Whilst that's quite enlightening it does not really answer the question. If anything it throws up more.
True, The Bricklayers Arms did do Jazz but not on the same nights, we went to both.
The Red Lion even nearer to Watermans had a really great selection of Live Music.

But Watermans thrived with competition on it's doorstep.
Those rivals are gone and pretty soon when Brentford FC  move away theres a good chance that 5 pubs , MacDonalds, a fish & chip shop, a kebab shop and a chinese take away will also founder and vanish.

The Watermans building was never any good, poorly designed and far from versatile. But even with that handicap it did really well.

But it has been meddled with by politicians, intelectuals and each time it has turned on those who supported it by using it.

The Arts is a loose word. It is obvious that much of the 'Art' aspect of Watermans is self indulgent and not of wide appeal much beyond self satisfaction.
For a community, Arts is probably Pottery, drawing and painting, and crafts.
Things that people can go and do, learn and explore and enjoy.
Exhibitions of wider appeal and so on.
But the ever dominant art intellectuals baulk at such a thing. Preferring to fete  the sort of off beam art that upsets the Daiiy Mail.

Arts councils seem to have a habit of throwing money at exclusive minority expression whilst somehow keeping wider art activity away from the masses.

Art is personal and a gift, if it really within you, you find a way to express it and nurture it at sometime in your life. Talent always gets spotted sooner or later.

Watermans has on more than a few occasions turned it's back on popular ventures almost like it is ashamed to be mainstream.

It has an unbeateable location one of which should not be developed for anything other than public use and certainly there will be a huge outcry if anything higher than exists is proposed.
But it should be improved, far better use could be made of the riverside  which is public and should remain such.

It is hard to see how it will be improved by moving. Nothing is being divulged as the what it will have, how big it will be and where it will be. But it is obvious that if it can't work where it is it will be highly unlikely if it will gain from moving, far more likely it will fade away altogehter


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Watermans out of touch?02/01/13 22:26:00 Anthony Waller
   Re:Watermans out of touch?03/01/13 00:10:00 Ann Williams
      Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?03/01/13 03:00:00 Anthony Waller
   Must be doing something right03/01/13 17:42:00 Leigh Stops
      Re:Must be doing something right03/01/13 18:07:00 Susan Kelly
         Re:Re:Must be doing something right03/01/13 21:38:00 Neil Chippendale
         Re:Re:Must be doing something right03/01/13 22:02:00 Michael Brandt
            Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right04/01/13 12:02:00 Susan Kelly
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right12/01/13 17:02:00 Jennifer Selig
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right13/01/13 09:29:00 Susan Kelly
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right13/01/13 15:40:00 Anthony Waller
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right13/01/13 19:30:00 Guy Lambert
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right13/01/13 20:23:00 Michael Brandt
                        But parking isn't free15/01/13 00:52:00 Leigh Stops
                           Re:But parking isn't free15/01/13 01:54:00 Keith Iddon
            Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 02:06:00 Keith Iddon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 02:08:00 Keith Iddon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 09:11:00 Michael Brandt
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 11:19:00 Keith Iddon
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 11:41:00 Michael Brandt
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 12:01:00 Keith Iddon
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 12:37:00 Ann Williams
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 14:14:00 Sarah Thomas
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 15:24:00 Ann Williams
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 15:48:00 Sarah Thomas
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 16:57:00 Guy Lambert
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 18:23:00 Keith Iddon
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right18/01/13 17:21:00 Jean Masters
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right18/01/13 18:10:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 01:55:00 Jennifer Selig
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 10:34:00 Keith Iddon
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 10:42:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 12:28:00 Keith Iddon
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 13:54:00 Jennifer Selig
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 14:11:00 Ann Williams
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 14:35:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 14:37:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 17:46:00 John Connelly
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 19:05:00 Anthony Waller
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 19:57:00 Ann Williams
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 20:07:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 21:06:00 Anthony Waller
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 23:53:00 Jennifer Selig
   Re:Watermans out of touch?24/01/13 09:37:00 David Squire
      Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?24/01/13 10:31:00 Anthony Waller
         Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?24/01/13 10:39:00 Keith Iddon
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?24/01/13 14:24:00 Jennifer Selig
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?24/01/13 18:16:00 Keith Iddon
                  Full parking details25/01/13 07:43:00 Susan Kelly
                     Re:Full parking details25/01/13 09:35:00 Raymond Havelock
                        Re:Re:Full parking details25/01/13 11:26:00 Keith Iddon
                           Re:Re:Re:Full parking details25/01/13 17:04:00 Susan Kelly
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Full parking details26/01/13 14:39:00 Jennifer Selig
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full parking details26/01/13 14:49:00 Raymond Havelock
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full parking details26/01/13 15:35:00 Jennifer Selig
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full parking details26/01/13 15:58:00 Jennifer Selig
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full parking details26/01/13 16:02:00 Jennifer Selig
   Re:Watermans out of touch?01/02/13 16:18:00 Stuart Parrott
      More on parking01/02/13 16:48:00 Susan Kelly
      Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?01/02/13 18:24:00 Keith Iddon
      Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?01/02/13 21:02:00 Michael Brandt
         Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?03/02/13 14:23:00 Jennifer Selig
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?03/02/13 16:18:00 Raymond Havelock
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?04/02/13 15:47:00 Jennifer Selig
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?04/02/13 15:54:00 Jennifer Selig
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?04/02/13 16:49:00 Bernadette Paul
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?04/02/13 17:34:00 Susan Kelly
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?04/02/13 18:54:00 Raymond Havelock
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?04/02/13 20:17:00 Bernadette Paul

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