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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right
Posted by: John Connelly
Date/Time: 23/01/13 17:46:00

Since Watermans opened in the 1980's it has received millions of pounds in subsidies from public funds, including the former GLC, the Arts Council, and, every year since it opened, Hounslow Council. Local council taxpayers are Watermans' cash cow!

Refurbishments a number of years ago were funded mainly from planning gain monies extracted from developers in the Brentford area. Some would argue that this was at the expense of other local community facilities, though councillors at the time saw Watermans as the priority.

It has suffered from time to time from financial crises. Around the Millenium, for instance, if Hounslow Council and the Arts Council had not provided a huge rescue package the centre would have gone bust.

The centre is still heavily subsidised, though this is almost always the case at arts venues.

I noticed reference to the Sunday Jazz sessions that took place, if I remember correctly, 20 to 25 years ago. At the time these were in competition with the Bricklayers Arms in Ealing Road. Unlike Watermans, whose jazz events were heavily subsidised by public funds, the Bricklayers ran their events commercially. Sadly, the Bricklayers, like many other local pubs, has gone.

Hounslow politicians have struggled over the years to justify the subsidy at Watermans. It was always low down on my priorities compared to youth centres and old people's centres, many of which have closed locally in the last decade. However, there has always been a vocal minority willing to campaign to retain arts subsidies at Watermans. When Hounslow Council changed political control in 2006 it is notable that people who annually proposed cuts in Watermans subsidies changed their tune when in office.

What most people who have been involved with Watermans over the years would accept is that the present building, originally itself received as planning gain from developments next door, is not a good design for an efficient arts centre, subsidised or not.


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Watermans out of touch?02/01/13 22:26:00 Anthony Waller
   Re:Watermans out of touch?03/01/13 00:10:00 Ann Williams
      Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?03/01/13 03:00:00 Anthony Waller
   Must be doing something right03/01/13 17:42:00 Leigh Stops
      Re:Must be doing something right03/01/13 18:07:00 Susan Kelly
         Re:Re:Must be doing something right03/01/13 21:38:00 Neil Chippendale
         Re:Re:Must be doing something right03/01/13 22:02:00 Michael Brandt
            Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right04/01/13 12:02:00 Susan Kelly
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right12/01/13 17:02:00 Jennifer Selig
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right13/01/13 09:29:00 Susan Kelly
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right13/01/13 15:40:00 Anthony Waller
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right13/01/13 19:30:00 Guy Lambert
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right13/01/13 20:23:00 Michael Brandt
                        But parking isn't free15/01/13 00:52:00 Leigh Stops
                           Re:But parking isn't free15/01/13 01:54:00 Keith Iddon
            Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 02:06:00 Keith Iddon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 02:08:00 Keith Iddon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 09:11:00 Michael Brandt
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 11:19:00 Keith Iddon
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 11:41:00 Michael Brandt
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 12:01:00 Keith Iddon
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 12:37:00 Ann Williams
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 14:14:00 Sarah Thomas
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 15:24:00 Ann Williams
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 15:48:00 Sarah Thomas
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 16:57:00 Guy Lambert
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right15/01/13 18:23:00 Keith Iddon
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right18/01/13 17:21:00 Jean Masters
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right18/01/13 18:10:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 01:55:00 Jennifer Selig
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 10:34:00 Keith Iddon
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 10:42:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 12:28:00 Keith Iddon
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 13:54:00 Jennifer Selig
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 14:11:00 Ann Williams
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 14:35:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 14:37:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 17:46:00 John Connelly
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 19:05:00 Anthony Waller
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 19:57:00 Ann Williams
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 20:07:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 21:06:00 Anthony Waller
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Must be doing something right23/01/13 23:53:00 Jennifer Selig
   Re:Watermans out of touch?24/01/13 09:37:00 David Squire
      Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?24/01/13 10:31:00 Anthony Waller
         Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?24/01/13 10:39:00 Keith Iddon
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?24/01/13 14:24:00 Jennifer Selig
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?24/01/13 18:16:00 Keith Iddon
                  Full parking details25/01/13 07:43:00 Susan Kelly
                     Re:Full parking details25/01/13 09:35:00 Raymond Havelock
                        Re:Re:Full parking details25/01/13 11:26:00 Keith Iddon
                           Re:Re:Re:Full parking details25/01/13 17:04:00 Susan Kelly
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Full parking details26/01/13 14:39:00 Jennifer Selig
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full parking details26/01/13 14:49:00 Raymond Havelock
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full parking details26/01/13 15:35:00 Jennifer Selig
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full parking details26/01/13 15:58:00 Jennifer Selig
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full parking details26/01/13 16:02:00 Jennifer Selig
   Re:Watermans out of touch?01/02/13 16:18:00 Stuart Parrott
      More on parking01/02/13 16:48:00 Susan Kelly
      Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?01/02/13 18:24:00 Keith Iddon
      Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?01/02/13 21:02:00 Michael Brandt
         Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?03/02/13 14:23:00 Jennifer Selig
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?03/02/13 16:18:00 Raymond Havelock
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?04/02/13 15:47:00 Jennifer Selig
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?04/02/13 15:54:00 Jennifer Selig
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?04/02/13 16:49:00 Bernadette Paul
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?04/02/13 17:34:00 Susan Kelly
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?04/02/13 18:54:00 Raymond Havelock
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Watermans out of touch?04/02/13 20:17:00 Bernadette Paul

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