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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply
Posted by: Raymond Havelock
Date/Time: 24/11/24 21:11:00

The whole point Michael, is that separating cyclists from traffic is a good thing but not if it means putting pedestrians at risk which is exactly what has happened.

In Chiswick you are now at risk from Buses and HGVs that have mirrors that overhang the reduced kerb to wheel distances.  You are as a pedestrian exposed to the elements and unable to step back or away. There are cyclists behind you.

But above all the danger is now beyond avoidable. 

If cyclists and scooterists ignore the correct use of the provided facilities and cannot be controlled in any way then what do you suggest?

As a Cyclist I know I am in an tiny minority who stop at lights, Have lights on my bike that work and are not obscured, signal correctly, look, and acknowledge other vehicles and cyclists and have mudguards.

I have been in CH Rd and been the only cyclist at a red light. Last week in Windmill Lane a woman with two tiny kids rode through the red at the A4 Junction stopping  with her front wheel across the A4 causing a bus to brake hard. One of the toddlers went up the side of a van signalling to turn left. Almost certainly unseen.

Accidents and fatalities in this area have been low for decades but you cannot genralise. Each have circumstances.  It is far lower in the UK than almost anywhere of significant conurbations.

But any scheme will only work if it does not compromise and I'm afraid it seriously compromises pedestrians in particular if users cannot behave on mass responsibly and correctly.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
TfLs random dismissal of wise concerns14/11/24 18:03:00 Raymond Havelock
   Re:TfLs random dismissal of wise concerns15/11/24 17:12:00 Elizabeth Price
      Re:Re:TfLs random dismissal of wise concerns15/11/24 17:31:00 Tim Barnes
         Re:Re:Re:TfLs random dismissal of wise concerns15/11/24 21:54:00 Simon Hayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:TfLs random dismissal of wise concerns16/11/24 14:08:00 David Cook
   Reply19/11/24 12:07:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Reply19/11/24 14:53:00 Simon Hayes
         Reply19/11/24 17:04:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Reply19/11/24 18:41:00 David Cook
               Re:Re:Reply20/11/24 10:27:00 Raymond Havelock
                  Reply20/11/24 21:48:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Reply20/11/24 23:36:00 Simon Hayes
                        Re:Re:Reply21/11/24 16:55:00 Kenneth Seally
                           Re:Re:Re:Reply22/11/24 12:00:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/11/24 15:42:00 Simon Hayes
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/11/24 22:44:00 Raymond Havelock
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/11/24 09:42:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/11/24 13:49:00 Jim Lawes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/11/24 19:18:00 Jim Lawes
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/11/24 20:32:00 N V Brooks
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/24 21:11:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/11/24 19:26:00 Simon Hayes

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