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Posted by: Raymond Havelock
Date/Time: 22/11/24 22:44:00

Interesting choice that used that example of a collision.

It involves a stationary vehicle. And a door being opened. It may be an error. However most car mirrors are on the door and most cars have blind spots if you try to physically look back.
Secondly car designs have blind spots and Cyclists and in particular Moped riders have a bad habit of positioning in the wrong place so cannot be seen.

If you are unaware then you should not be riding on the road.

Having done not one but two urban cycling courses in North London and the City the very first thing taught is positioning to avoid the very situation of a vehicle door being opened. it is more often a passing who does this.

It also warns and teaches techniques of always to expect such things and that includes passenger side doors - which his the most common and due to the fact that many are non driving passengers with no road experience.  That is very seldom reported as the only person is the insured person for the vehicle concerned.


You will find that fully tested motor cyclists are well trained and tested for this and underlines the importance of cyclists to be fully competent in riding and using the roads.

Training is abysmal in that a tiny percentage have only ever taken a proficiency test and the modern version spends more time telling children about empowerment and riders rights than actually being able to ride sensibly and safely and in control.

It is simple. riding a bike on a carriageway requires as much due care as if operating a motorised vehicle. Expect the unexpected at all times and be prepared and ride accordingly to conditions.

The Police have a poor record of accurate detail and sloppy reporting of RTAs only Traffic Officers are adept at this and you can always spot the difference in reports.

It's all to easy to report the details based on those with documentation and certification than those with none at all. It's far too much bother.

It has been well pointed out about the poor stats and definitions for over 25 years.

As for Bus Islands. Perfect sight lines. Has it not occurred to you that a great many using buses may not have perfect vision? Or indeed perfect mobility> And how do you address riders using pathways in the wrong directs or riding straight through and not following the path?  I suggest you get involved with assisting elderly or infirm for a few weeks and do a few shopping trips or appointment assists with someone who needs a little help. You will soon understand what they help requires and why it is needed.

It could be you one day.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
TfLs random dismissal of wise concerns14/11/24 18:03:00 Raymond Havelock
   Re:TfLs random dismissal of wise concerns15/11/24 17:12:00 Elizabeth Price
      Re:Re:TfLs random dismissal of wise concerns15/11/24 17:31:00 Tim Barnes
         Re:Re:Re:TfLs random dismissal of wise concerns15/11/24 21:54:00 Simon Hayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:TfLs random dismissal of wise concerns16/11/24 14:08:00 David Cook
   Reply19/11/24 12:07:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Reply19/11/24 14:53:00 Simon Hayes
         Reply19/11/24 17:04:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Reply19/11/24 18:41:00 David Cook
               Re:Re:Reply20/11/24 10:27:00 Raymond Havelock
                  Reply20/11/24 21:48:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Reply20/11/24 23:36:00 Simon Hayes
                        Re:Re:Reply21/11/24 16:55:00 Kenneth Seally
                           Re:Re:Re:Reply22/11/24 12:00:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/11/24 15:42:00 Simon Hayes
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply22/11/24 22:44:00 Raymond Havelock
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/11/24 09:42:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/11/24 13:49:00 Jim Lawes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/11/24 19:18:00 Jim Lawes
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply23/11/24 20:32:00 N V Brooks
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/24 21:11:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/11/24 19:26:00 Simon Hayes

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