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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust
Posted by: Adam Beamish
Date/Time: 21/08/19 10:02:00

Tracie,

As Vanessa has pointed out, I only involved myself in this thread when A N Other brought up an issue that as you correctly say was rather off tangent, but which, due to its insinuation, justified a response from myself.

This is inevitably going to come across as arrogance, but to some extent you should appreciate the fact that I do post on these forums, because as a planning professional I can provide the expertise and legal basis on issues that are being discussed.  I can't help the fact that sometimes what I post isn't what people want to hear. 



As I've said many times I've got nothing to gain from engaging on these forums, and largely the only reason I do is to sometimes set matters straight so that people might understand the planning system better.  It's like when I was recently approached to assist objectors to a scheme in Ealing and as part of my research I read over 900 objections, of which a good 875 raised points that aren't material planning considerations and thus will carry no weight whatsoever, despite all the time and effort put into them by the authors.  Had that time been spent seeking out a professional view, as fortunately 1 person known to me had the foresight to do, those objections might have actually carried some weight.

Indeed, with the O'Riordan's proposal, although the applicant has tried to do so, in my experience it is very hard to successfully demonstrate that a public house is no longer financially viable when it is still actively trading,  which is why you'll often see pubs shut for 2 years or so and then an application for redevelopment comes forward.  Indeed I've attended pre-app meetings with Officers from LBH on similar proposals when Officers have said that the Council wouldn't look favourably upon any such proposals until a pub had been closed and marketed for at least 1 year. 

So if I was objecting to the O'Riordan's application that is the route I'd be going down.

Now to me, in setting that out I'm being helpful, I have nothing to gain or lose whether the application is approved or not, yet there's always someone who seems unable to appreciate that.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Another one bites the dust17/08/19 16:58:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
   Re:Another one bites the dust17/08/19 22:26:00 N V Brooks
      Re:Re:Another one bites the dust17/08/19 22:48:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
         Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust18/08/19 06:41:00 Nichols Beard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust18/08/19 09:42:00 N V Brooks
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust18/08/19 11:31:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust18/08/19 11:58:00 N V Brooks
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust18/08/19 14:22:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust18/08/19 14:33:00 Raymond Havelock
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust18/08/19 14:55:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 11:47:00 Vanessa Smith
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust18/08/19 15:06:00 N V Brooks
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust18/08/19 17:15:00 Jennifer Selig
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust18/08/19 17:34:00 Guy Lambert
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust18/08/19 21:18:00 Raymond Havelock
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust18/08/19 23:38:00 Guy Lambert
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 10:25:00 Adam Beamish
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 06:23:00 Nichols Beard
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 08:07:00 N V Brooks
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 12:03:00 Raymond Havelock
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 12:12:00 Anne England
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 12:46:00 Adam Beamish
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 13:09:00 Raymond Havelock
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 17:33:00 Guy Lambert
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 21:52:00 Adam Beamish
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 15:37:00 Mike Paterson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 16:04:00 Mike Paterson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 18:48:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 19:52:00 Neil Chippendale
   Re:Another one bites the dust19/08/19 16:13:00 Mike Paterson
      Re:Re:Another one bites the dust20/08/19 11:27:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
         Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust20/08/19 12:20:00 Vanessa Smith
         Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust20/08/19 16:18:00 N V Brooks
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust20/08/19 16:34:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust20/08/19 17:31:00 N V Brooks
         Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust21/08/19 00:06:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust21/08/19 10:02:00 Adam Beamish
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust21/08/19 12:58:00 N V Brooks
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust21/08/19 13:34:00 Vanessa Smith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust21/08/19 14:34:00 N V Brooks
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust24/08/19 12:41:00 N V Brooks
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust25/08/19 15:42:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust25/08/19 16:15:00 Jean Harrison
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust26/08/19 13:11:00 Vanessa Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust26/08/19 23:04:00 Guy Lambert
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust27/08/19 07:44:00 Emma Renton
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust07/09/19 13:09:00 Mike Paterson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Another one bites the dust27/08/19 10:18:00 Anne England
                              Re: Should we laugh or cry?27/08/19 16:49:00 Vanessa Smith
                                 Re:Re: Should we laugh or cry?28/08/19 11:12:00 Jennifer Selig
                                    Re:Re:Re: Should we laugh or cry?29/08/19 08:21:00 Emma Renton
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re: Should we laugh or cry?29/08/19 09:49:00 Paul Fisher
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should we laugh or cry?29/08/19 14:08:00 Jennifer Selig
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should we laugh or cry?29/08/19 14:27:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should we laugh or cry?07/09/19 15:52:00 Jennifer Selig
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should we laugh or cry?07/09/19 15:55:00 Jennifer Selig
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Should we laugh or cry?07/09/19 16:49:00 Vanessa Smith

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