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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP
Posted by: Phil Andrews
Date/Time: 05/07/09 16:05:00

I would be very happy indeed to have an independent body determine the appropriate level of remuneration for councillors, as well as for MPs.  At present it is one of those things that one just cannot have a rational debate about as there is too much scope for politicking, as we have seen on this forum.

In our borough we have Labour and other councillors criticising the current allowances, yet I've no doubt that in Labour-controlled boroughs which pay similar rates they face the same criticisms from their own opposition councillors.  A debate which operates on this level cannot aspire to a just resolution.

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Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal27/06/09 11:06:00 Stuart Parrott
   Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal27/06/09 12:37:00 Robin Taylor
      Re:Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal27/06/09 12:42:00 Phil Andrews
         Re:Re:Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal27/06/09 13:04:00 Robin Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal27/06/09 13:08:00 Phil Andrews
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal27/06/09 13:16:00 Robin Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal27/06/09 13:26:00 Jim Lawes
      Re:Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal27/06/09 14:10:00 Stuart Parrott
         Re:Re:Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal27/06/09 17:39:00 Robin Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal28/06/09 08:52:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal28/06/09 13:20:00 Robin Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal29/06/09 12:28:00 Andrew Sibley
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Andrew's comment of 12:2829/06/09 13:07:00 Robin Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Andrew's comment of 12:2829/06/09 13:51:00 Steve Taylor
      Re:Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal04/07/09 22:15:00 Andrew Dakers
   Look - is there an issue with Councillors expenses?29/06/09 12:34:00 Sarah Felstead
      Re:Look - is there an issue with Councillors expenses?29/06/09 13:46:00 Sarah Felstead
         Re:Re:Look - is there an issue with Councillors expenses?29/06/09 13:57:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Look - is there an issue with Councillors expenses?29/06/09 17:36:00 Robin Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Look - is there an issue with Councillors expenses?29/06/09 18:21:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Look - is there an issue with Councillors expenses?29/06/09 13:57:00 Sarah Felstead
   Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal29/06/09 14:07:00 Sarah Felstead
      Re:Re:Local debates on the Keens and MPs expenses scandal29/06/09 14:23:00 Sarah Felstead
         A Debate without the Keens being present29/06/09 19:28:00 David Giles
            Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP03/07/09 10:17:00 Phil Andrews
               Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP04/07/09 12:17:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP04/07/09 12:56:00 Phil Andrews
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP04/07/09 13:36:00 Tim Henderson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP04/07/09 13:37:00 Phil Andrews
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP04/07/09 13:38:00 Tim Henderson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP04/07/09 14:13:00 Phil Andrews
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP04/07/09 16:06:00 Jim Lawes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP04/07/09 22:16:00 Adam Beamish
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 00:16:00 Andrew Dakers
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 01:42:00 Jim Lawes
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 02:18:00 Phil Andrews
                                                From Phil's Blog: The venues and lists of planned particants05/07/09 03:42:00 Jim Lawes
                                                   Re:From Phil's Blog: The venues and lists of planned participants05/07/09 03:49:00 Jim Lawes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Andrew's posting of 00:1606/07/09 02:52:00 Robin Taylor
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Andrew's posting of 00:1606/07/09 10:43:00 Andrew Dakers
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 10:30:00 Vanessa Smith
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 10:43:00 Sarah Felstead
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 10:49:00 Sarah Felstead
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 11:11:00 Paul Fisher
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 12:39:00 Adam Beamish
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 12:41:00 Colin Murphy
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Paul's posting of 11:11am06/07/09 02:33:00 Robin Taylor
                                                :Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 12:43:00 Steve Taylor
                                                   Re::Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 12:54:00 Adam Beamish
                                                      Re:Re::Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 13:47:00 Phil Andrews
                                                         Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 14:56:00 John Connelly
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 15:16:00 Andrew Dakers
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP05/07/09 16:05:00 Phil Andrews
                                                   Re::Re:Re:Steve's posting of 12:4306/07/09 02:37:00 Robin Taylor
                                                      Re:Re::Re:Re:Steve's posting of 12:4306/07/09 02:47:00 Phil Andrews
                                                         Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Phil's posting of 02:4706/07/09 03:01:00 Robin Taylor
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Phil's posting of 02:4706/07/09 03:08:00 Phil Andrews
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Phil's posting of 02:4706/07/09 03:35:00 Robin Taylor
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Phil's posting of 02:4706/07/09 03:40:00 Phil Andrews
                                                      Re:Re::Re:Re:Steve's posting of 12:4306/07/09 07:59:00 Steve Taylor
                                                         Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Steve's posting of 12:4306/07/09 16:16:00 Phil Andrews
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Steve's posting of 12:4306/07/09 16:18:00 Stuart Parrott
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Steve's posting of 12:4306/07/09 16:37:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Steve's posting of 12:4306/07/09 16:39:00 Phil Andrews
                                                                  Adam's post re leaflet headlines10/07/09 01:44:00 Andrew Dakers
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP06/07/09 18:38:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Debate without the Keens being present - BUMP06/07/09 18:45:00 Phil Andrews
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Phil's posting of 18:4506/07/09 18:51:00 Robin Taylor
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Phil's posting of 18:4506/07/09 18:56:00 Phil Andrews
   So, tonight's the night for the Brentford meeting.08/07/09 14:52:00 Jim Lawes
      Tonight's Brentford meeting well attended but ONE NO SHOW!08/07/09 23:29:00 Jim Lawes
         Re:Tonight's Brentford meeting well attended but ONE NO SHOW!08/07/09 23:31:00 Jim Lawes
            Re:Re:Tonight's Brentford meeting well attended but ONE NO SHOW!08/07/09 23:42:00 Dan Filson
               Re:Re:Re:Tonight's Brentford meeting well attended but ONE NO SHOW!08/07/09 23:49:00 Jim Lawes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Tonight's Brentford meeting well attended but ONE NO SHOW!09/07/09 10:25:00 Andrew Sibley
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Andrew's post of 10:2509/07/09 12:13:00 Robin Taylor
            Re:Re:Tonight's Brentford meeting well attended but ONE NO SHOW!09/07/09 00:05:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Tonight's Brentford meeting well attended but ONE NO SHOW!09/07/09 01:31:00 Dan Filson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Tonight's Brentford meeting well attended but ONE NO SHOW!09/07/09 07:48:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Monday's Isleworth meeting not really well attended09/07/09 09:16:00 Dan Filson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Monday's Isleworth meeting not really well attended09/07/09 12:52:00 Vanessa Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Monday's Isleworth meeting not really well attended09/07/09 12:59:00 Phil Andrews
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Monday's Isleworth meeting not really well attended09/07/09 13:40:00 Colin Murphy
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Vanessa's posting of 12:5209/07/09 18:12:00 Robin Taylor
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Vanessa's posting of 12:5209/07/09 18:28:00 Simon Anderson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Vanessa's posting of 12:5209/07/09 18:35:00 Phil Andrews
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Vanessa's posting of 12:5209/07/09 18:45:00 Simon Anderson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Vanessa's posting of 12:5209/07/09 18:45:00 Simon Anderson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Simon's posting of 18:4509/07/09 22:40:00 Robin Taylor
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Simon's posting of 18:4509/07/09 23:03:00 Sarah Felstead
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Sarah's posting of 23:0310/07/09 11:14:00 Robin Taylor
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Sarah's posting of 23:0310/07/09 11:50:00 Sarah Felstead
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Simon's posting of 18:4509/07/09 23:34:00 Simon Anderson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Monday's Isleworth meeting not really well attended09/07/09 17:26:00 Tony Stavides
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Monday's Isleworth meeting not really well attended09/07/09 18:06:00 Simon Anderson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tonight's Brentford meeting well attended but ONE NO SHOW!09/07/09 14:49:00 Kath Richardson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tonight's Brentford meeting well attended but ONE NO SHOW!09/07/09 15:29:00 Phil Andrews
   You may want to post this on the W4 site if you want an attendance tonight n/m09/07/09 11:20:00 Colin Murphy
   St Paul’s Church, Brentford 8th July09/07/09 17:59:00 Sarah Felstead
      Re:Sarah's posting of 17:5909/07/09 18:16:00 Robin Taylor
         Re:Re:Sarah's posting of 17:5909/07/09 19:29:00 Tim Henderson
            Re:Re:Re:Tim's posting of 19:2909/07/09 22:34:00 Robin Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Tim's posting of 19:2910/07/09 10:02:00 Kath Richardson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Tim's posting of 19:2910/07/09 12:58:00 Andrew Sibley
            Re:Re:Re:Sarah's posting of 17:5909/07/09 23:10:00 Sarah Felstead
            Re:Re:Re:Sarah's posting of 17:5910/07/09 14:07:00 MP Parry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Sarah's posting of 17:5911/07/09 22:05:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Sarah's posting of 17:5909/07/09 23:09:00 Sarah Felstead

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