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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?
Posted by: Vanessa Smith
Date/Time: 27/07/18 09:51:00

I think my comparison with CEOs has been misunderstood - it wasn't the monetary rewards I alluded to - it was the same arguments being put forward to justify the money. I agree with Adam that social media etc. means that things can be handled more easily and saves a lot of time. However, where I do part company is with Adam's take on 'power' - councillors go to the electorate and put their heads over the parapet, and they make policies which officers must support. There have been occasions - and I speak personally - where some officers think that they should dictate to members to get their own way. It is not unknown for an officer to have a particular bee in their bonnet and try to railroad members into doing what they want, and members - in theory at least - have to consider the effect on their constituents. Also for many members they live in the area they represent so do have a good working knowledge of local issues so sometimes do actually know what they are talking about rather than a paid officer who might live miles away or even outside of London. I do also appreciate that some members try it on and put officers under undue pressure, I think in those cases officers must go to their managers, and if needs be the Chief Executive. The working relationship should ideally be one of mutual support, with officers giving their best professional advice and members heeding the advice but not being bound by it.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Is anyone surprised?25/07/18 10:05:00 Paul Fisher
   Re:Is anyone surprised?25/07/18 10:09:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?25/07/18 10:18:00 Paul Fisher
         Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?25/07/18 11:35:00 Raymond Havelock
         Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?25/07/18 11:36:00 Nicholas Beard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?25/07/18 12:02:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?25/07/18 12:13:00 Vanessa Smith
                  I wonder..25/07/18 12:17:00 Keith Iddon
                     Re:I wonder..25/07/18 13:04:00 Paul Fisher
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?25/07/18 12:20:00 Adam Beamish
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?25/07/18 17:43:00 Christopher Gillie
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?26/07/18 14:11:00 Vanessa Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?26/07/18 18:37:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?27/07/18 00:02:00 Christopher Gillie
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?27/07/18 09:23:00 Adam Beamish
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?27/07/18 09:51:00 Vanessa Smith
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?27/07/18 11:05:00 Adam Beamish
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?27/07/18 11:09:00 Nicholas Beard
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?27/07/18 11:35:00 Vanessa Smith
                                    :Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?27/07/18 13:31:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?27/07/18 14:03:00 Vanessa Smith
                                          Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?28/07/18 19:08:00 Guy Lambert
                                             Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?29/07/18 17:26:00 Phil Andrews
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?29/07/18 17:49:00 Guy Lambert
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?29/07/18 18:47:00 Raymond Havelock
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?29/07/18 19:05:00 Nicholas Beard
                                                   12 years ago, Guy02/08/18 18:43:00 Keith Iddon
                                             Re:Re:Re::Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?30/07/18 09:32:00 Paul Fisher
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is anyone surprised?30/07/18 09:55:00 Christina Hill
                        Productivity Puzzle31/07/18 06:35:00 Christopher Gillie
                           Re:Productivity Puzzle31/07/18 07:08:00 Nicholas Beard
                              Re:Re:Productivity Puzzle01/08/18 00:17:00 Christopher Gillie

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