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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area
Posted by: Paul Brownlee
Date/Time: 03/10/17 18:31:00

I would fundamentally oppose any application for a licence to re-open the Albany Arms. As I am cited in this article from the Richmond and Twickenham Times in 2010:

Any Google search regarding the Albany Arms will throw up other instances.

It is now more than 22 years that I have lived close to this pub, and in that time between 1995 up until it finally closed it's doors in 2012 there had been at least seven landlords during those 17 years. That's an average of one every 2 years. Each one may have had good intentions, but all failed and brought the pub down to a level which was a blight. Local residents were in despair, as were the police and the council.

The litany of problems is long. Local residents suffered much. Children and their parents walking past from the local school at 15.30 were confronted by anti-social drunks hanging around outside - which became worse after the smoking ban. The noise reached on some nights at midnight and the early hours by successive landlords recorded decibels so extreme that the following day a noise abatement notice was served instigating a £20,000 fine. Upon receipt the then landlord did an overnight flit. That was before the next chap who set up an illegal strip joint - with bouncers outside and blackened windows.

One must ask the question why it's reputation was so bad, and why successive landlords had to resort to encouraging such appalling clientèle and behaviour?

Since it's closure the demography of Brentford has changed (not necessarily for the better) with rampant new development and new residents and it's possible that a new Albany Arms will be different and cater for them. Yet, it's worth noting the Albany Spice which opened less than two years ago on Albany Parade, shortly afterwards ceased opening at lunchtime between Monday and Thursday because there was insufficient business. They can be credited for affecting the removal to a degree of a hard core bunch of undesirables which would congregate regularly drinking on the public benches. I would worry that the reopening of the Albany Arms will attract those very people or their associates which it's taken so long to remove.

Furthermore, the Albany Arms benefited from football fans, and on many occasions was the scene of some very bad related hooliganism. The ground is moving to a site in Lionel Road and work is expected to commence on the stadium next year. This will invariably take away any business from the Albany Arms should it ever re-open.

Any new landlord would have a major challenge to restore this pub to successful glory. I would support a visionary who could turn it around to be a respectable and decent establishment - conducive and harmonious within the neighbourhood - but experience suggests otherwise.

Incidentally a pre-planning application was made to the council about a year ago to convert it into 6 flats. I don't know what became of that - or whether it is still in progress.

One more thing - I do not recognise at all the negative picture that Jacob James has painted. It is offensive, provocative and totally unjustified.

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Albany Arms & Area29/09/17 18:45:00 Peter Brew
   Re:Albany Arms & Area30/09/17 13:51:00 Barbara Dudley
      Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area01/10/17 09:40:00 David Squire
   Re:Albany Arms & Area01/10/17 12:30:00 Martin Case
      Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area02/10/17 10:42:00 Jacob James
         Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area02/10/17 21:12:00 Peter Brew
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area03/10/17 11:09:00 Jacob James
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area03/10/17 18:31:00 Paul Brownlee
         Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area02/10/17 21:13:00 Reg Ghosh
      Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area02/10/17 21:32:00 Peter Brew
         Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area02/10/17 21:43:00 Nick Fichte
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area03/10/17 20:42:00 Claire Peleschka
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area03/10/17 21:49:00 Jacob James
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area04/10/17 07:22:00 Jim Linwood
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area13/10/17 12:57:00 Barbara Dudley
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area04/10/17 09:45:00 Raymond Havelock
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area04/10/17 12:38:00 Guy Lambert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area04/10/17 16:06:00 Peter Brew
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area04/10/17 16:28:00 Paul Scullion
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area04/10/17 19:05:00 Jennifer Selig
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area05/10/17 14:46:00 Paul Brownlee
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area14/10/17 10:15:00 Peter Brew
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area14/10/17 11:01:00 Raymond Havelock
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Albany Arms & Area15/10/17 18:10:00 Raki Smith

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