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Posted by: Steve Taylor
Date/Time: 27/04/10 20:42:00

Very interesting Tim

"11. In the Commissioner’s view, Mr and Mrs Keen should have sought advice from the
Department of Resources early in 2009, soon after the Brentford house was boarded up.17

He continues:
By the early spring of 2009, it should have been clear to Mr and Mrs Keen that they were in danger of not being able to return to the home for quite some time and they should either have ensured that their building problems were resolved quickly or started to make alternative arrangements. While this is a matter of judgement,
my judgement is that by June 2009 they had been out of their Brentford home for too long for it to have continued to be considered their main home for allowance purposes.

They had by then been out of the property for seven months and the work had yet to re-start. The arrival of the squatters was another serious setback, but by then the reasonable leeway had in my view run out.18

12. The Commissioner concludes:
... from June 2009 to October 2009, Mr and Mrs Keen did not have more than onehome for the purposes of their claims against parliamentary allowances. Since they did not have two homes in which they could stay overnight over that period, they were in breach of the rules of the House in continuing to claim from their parliamentary allowances for their flat in London.19

13. Allowing for the possibility that we might not agree with this conclusion, the Commissioner has also considered whether, if Mr and Mrs Keen did have two homes throughout the 18 months when their Brentford house was affected by building works, they effectively received a personal financial benefit. He suggests that they did.

This is because, had they not made use of their London flat, they would have had to rent a property or perhaps stay in a hotel, and meet the cost from their own
resources.

For these reasons I consider that Mr and Mrs Keen obtained a personal financial benefit from this arrangement which was not in accordance with either the rules for the additional Costs Allowance or those for the Personal Additional Accommodation Expenditure.20

The Commissioner concludes that the period during which the benefit lasted was from the beginning of December 2008 (when the house was boarded up) to October 2009 (when the
Keens moved back in).

14. In his overall conclusion, the Commissioner describes as a mitigating factor the advice given to Mr and Mrs Keen by the Department of Resources on two occasions that they
could continue to claim allowances in respect of their London flat.

However, he also points out that Members are responsible for their own actions and suggests that “A more rigorous examination of their circumstances might have led Mr and Mrs Keen to take a different view.”

The Commissioner upholds the complaint, describing the breaches of the rules by Mr and Mrs Keen as “serious … involving significant public funds.”

In his view, both Mr and Mrs Keen were “equally responsible for … a serious misjudgement.”


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Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 07:44:00 Conal Stewart
   Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 08:31:00 Adam Beamish
      Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 10:07:00 Conal Stewart
         Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 15:32:00 Kate Doyle
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 16:48:00 Conal Stewart
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 17:18:00 Robin Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 15:32:00 Kate Doyle
         Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 19:39:00 Kate Doyle
         Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 19:55:00 Kate Doyle
   Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 09:55:00 Vanessa Smith
      Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 13:16:00 Ian Speed
         Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 14:39:00 Vanessa Smith
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 16:55:00 Conal Stewart
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 17:46:00 Anthony Waller
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 20:43:00 Sharon Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 17:50:00 Tim Henderson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 20:41:00 Kate Doyle
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 21:50:00 Neil Chippendale
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 22:14:00 Kate Doyle
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 22:30:00 Neil Chippendale
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 22:56:00 Kate Doyle
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?23/04/10 23:12:00 Neil Chippendale
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?24/04/10 00:09:00 Robin Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?24/04/10 00:51:00 Anthony Waller
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?24/04/10 11:49:00 Robin Taylor
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?25/04/10 12:20:00 Anthony Waller
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?25/04/10 21:27:00 Robin Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?27/04/10 17:54:00 Anthony Waller
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?27/04/10 19:20:00 Tim Henderson
                                                         :Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?27/04/10 20:42:00 Steve Taylor
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?27/04/10 21:17:00 Michael Brandt
   Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?24/04/10 11:57:00 Steve Taylor
   Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?24/04/10 15:03:00 Susan Sharkey
      Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?24/04/10 15:39:00 Robin Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?24/04/10 16:10:00 Simon Anderson
         Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?24/04/10 20:19:00 Susan Sharkey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?24/04/10 20:21:00 Susan Sharkey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?24/04/10 20:52:00 Steve Taylor
      Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?24/04/10 16:10:00 Tim Henderson
   Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?25/04/10 01:42:00 Bruce Perkins
      Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?25/04/10 14:34:00 Michael Brandt
         Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?25/04/10 15:35:00 James Dash
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Since when did husting mean barracking?27/04/10 21:26:00 David Giles

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