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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith
Posted by: Adam Turner
Date/Time: 26/04/19 12:37:00

Every building is not above 20m in Brentford Town Centre, nor are all the new development's proposed buildings more than 20m. Stop misquoting facts that are clearly obtainable in the documents supporting the planning application, or local policy plans.
Also, please don't be condescending with regards to meanings of words. I asked a genuine question, in hopes of an enlightened response and some dialogue. Anyone who has reviewed the councils Urban Context and Character Study can see from the building heights infographic that the majority or buildings in Brentford Town Centre are sub 20m, so in the context of the town centre,  4 or 5 new tall buildings is well within a "limited number". Context and Character is inherently subjective anyway, so throwing in "limited number" to the text I don't think really helps quantify an exact number of buildings.

Taking a single point from a section called "Context and Character", and arguing it is being violated, seems somewhat ironic. But, if you're arguing against the height of the building, I would have thought a more pertinent approach would be to argue it isn't in line with the councils view of tall buildings (which Ballymore themselves make reference to in proposal/supporting docs). That's why I questioned the tall buildings point of the local plan, which seemed to have been ignored in the preceding "discussion" on this thread.
It may however be a misguided argument, as council explicitly states they're in support of tall buildings for regeneration, which as mentioned Ballymore addressed in their proposals and subsequent supporting documents, and furthermore addressed how their proposals fulfilled the variety of other requirements in the Culture & Character sections of the local plan.

Also, 20m isn't a "designated maximum height". They define a tall building as ‘any building or structure which is over 20m in height and/or which is significantly taller than the surrounding townscape and/ or which recognisably changes the skyline’.
One can understand that in the context of Brentford Town Centre and area regeneration plans, these proposed buildings, "tall" or otherwise, are suitably located, as was highlighted in the above-mentioned urban study.

Just a resident looking to join in the conversation on the local regeneration is all.


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                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 26/04/19 13:25:00 Adam Beamish
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 26/04/19 14:55:00 Keith Iddon
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