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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith
Posted by: Adam Beamish
Date/Time: 29/03/19 16:40:00

I note you still didn't quote the supporting text to the policy which confirms the definition of "tall buildings" as being 20 metres or higher.

And that was the only point I was making, by quoting the full policy together with the definition I've added above we've finally got to the point where you've tacitly acknowledged that the Local Plan doesn't prevent any buildings over 20 metres high, which you stated it did.

That's the point I'm trying to make Lorne, and although you might not realise it I am trying to be helpful.  As I always say, if members of the public make statements that are factually untrue when submitting representations etc., then any half competent professional will seize on that and effectively discredit them.

And I do that in working on behalf of the public and local authorities in opposing development proposals too - I've currently involved in opposing a residential scheme in Worcestershire where the developer has made various spurious claims about how he 'doubts' the LPA can demonstrate a 10% supply of housing supply from small to medium sites (which the NPPF now seeks), but I've enjoyed ripping this 'doubt' to shreds by pointing out that 22% of the residential site allocations within the District are on small to medium sites. 

As for your query about Morrisons, I have always pointed out that the 75%/25% designation, which if memory serves me right dates back to the 2008 Area Action Plan, is something of a red herring - it would be totally contradictory to longstanding national and local policy about higher density residential development being in town centres if for every 3 square metres of retail floorspace the site could only be developed by way of 1 square metre of residential floorspace.

But, and if you search hard enough you will find posts from me on that exact subject before, it really shouldn't have every been published or left as it was.

As for your fondness for the former Director (who I only ever met once), the gamekeeper turned poacher role is part of this and most other businesses.  I spent 10 predominantly enjoyable years in the public sector, but I wouldn't go back no matter for any salary or bonus package.  I deal with local authorities everyday and I see the best and the worst of them, and, having been in the public sector for 10 years, I'm very quick to praise those Officers who are a credit to their profession and I genuinely have an admiration for the way they stick it out - I'm far too 'blunt' to put up with any crap from the public, fellow Officers or indeed clients, but that's the benefit of being a sole trader planning consultant, I can tell clients to take a hike.

Indeed, as far as I'm concerned I owe the last 11 years of my planning career to my bluntness in standing up to the last Director of Planning at an LPA I every worked for - being suspended after standing up on a point of principle, receiving a 5 figure sum after an employment hearing, and from that day onwards both employers and clients have always been attracted to me because I'm the guy who dared to stand up to the powers that be regardless of the potential consequences for my career.

Equally I feel 'sad' for those good Officers who get tarred with the "useless public sector" tag because of the incompetence, laziness or general indifference of too many of their colleagues, who wouldn't last a month in the private sector but still can hide amongst the public sector 'deadwood'.

Classic example this week - a Parish Council has objected to an application of mine, being the proactive chap I am (officially this week I'm out of the office skiing, in reality I've sent in excess of 100 emails, had many work phone conversations and easily spent 1.5 working days sat doing work on my laptop) I immediately sound out the Case Officer as to whether this means it has to be referred to committee if he recommends approval - his response "no, it would only have to be referred if it included new commercial floorspace".

He's had this application for 6 weeks and throughout the submission it spells out that the proposals include new commercial floorspace.  I point this out to him, at which point he says "I hadn't seen that on the plans, can you send me a copy, I point out that proposed floor plans have been uploaded by his own colleagues for weeks now, along with all the other documents which repeatedly refer to a new extension.

So clearly the guy hasn't looked at the application at all, despite having it for 6 weeks - so be it, but if I then ask him a question you think he might bother to look at it before openly displaying his complete ignorance by providing me with a completely inaccurate response.

That's why I'd never go back - I simply couldn't work with such people, and unfortunately I encounter it far too often.  But such people always seem to remain in their posts, probably because individual performance assessment in the public sector is non-existent.  Whereas for sole traders like myself performance monitoring is built in with the ability to generate increasing business.


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Dock road car park monolith 18/03/19 14:24:00 Robin Jones
   Re:Dock road car park monolith 19/03/19 06:54:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 19/03/19 07:03:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 19/03/19 07:07:00 Nicholas Beard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 19/03/19 15:39:00 Stephen Scott
         Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 19/07/19 17:29:00 Margaret Mason
   Re:Dock road car park monolith 19/03/19 19:11:00 Neil Chippendale
      Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 19/03/19 20:21:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 19/03/19 21:16:00 Stephen Scott
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 19/03/19 21:18:00 Stephen Scott
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 19/03/19 21:23:00 Stephen Scott
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 22/03/19 13:51:00 Jo Francis
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 22/03/19 15:29:00 Guy Lambert
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 22/03/19 17:22:00 Jo Francis
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 23/03/19 00:09:00 Guy Lambert
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 23/03/19 10:33:00 Robin Jones
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 25/03/19 11:37:00 Keith Iddon
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 17/05/19 08:54:00 Robert Ayres
         Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 13/05/19 16:15:00 Neal Rollason
   Re:Dock road car park monolith 22/03/19 17:41:00 Jean Harrison
      Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 28/03/19 11:48:00 Lorne Gifford
         Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 28/03/19 18:03:00 Adam Beamish
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 29/03/19 11:06:00 Lorne Gifford
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 29/03/19 11:15:00 Lorne Gifford
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 29/03/19 14:33:00 Adam Beamish
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 29/03/19 15:57:00 Lorne Gifford
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 29/03/19 16:40:00 Adam Beamish
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 30/03/19 00:29:00 Guy Lambert
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 30/03/19 07:07:00 Lorne Gifford
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 30/03/19 10:22:00 Adam Beamish
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 30/03/19 15:48:00 Lorne Gifford
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 30/03/19 17:17:00 Lorne Gifford
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 01/04/19 10:46:00 Adam Beamish
   Re:Dock road car park monolith 04/04/19 18:18:00 Satvir Sidhu
   Re:Dock road car park monolith 05/04/19 14:45:00 Jo Francis
      Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 05/04/19 14:55:00 Adam Beamish
         Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 15/04/19 13:57:00 Lorne Gifford
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 16/04/19 17:53:00 Adam Turner
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 16/04/19 22:40:00 Neil Chippendale
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 17/04/19 06:59:00 Guy Lambert
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 18/04/19 19:45:00 Neil Chippendale
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 17/04/19 16:13:00 Adam Turner
   Re:Dock road car park monolith 17/04/19 09:12:00 Jo Francis
      Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 17/04/19 12:07:00 Paul Fisher
         Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 17/04/19 17:34:00 Iain Muir
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 18/04/19 14:48:00 Stephen Scott
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 19/04/19 19:44:00 Lorne Gifford
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 26/04/19 12:37:00 Adam Turner
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 26/04/19 13:25:00 Adam Beamish
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 26/04/19 14:55:00 Keith Iddon
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 02/05/19 17:41:00 Adam Turner
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 19/04/19 21:01:00 Nigel Moore
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 20/04/19 21:23:00 Neil Chippendale
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 25/04/19 21:26:00 Jean Harrison
                  Supposed to be finished this week! 15/05/19 06:57:00 Reg Ghosh
   Re:Dock road car park monolith 21/06/19 11:37:00 Neil Chippendale
      Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 21/06/19 11:39:00 Neil Chippendale
         Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 21/06/19 17:58:00 Philippa Bond
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 22/06/19 10:24:00 Stephen Scott
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 23/06/19 10:55:00 Jennifer Selig
   Re:Dock road car park monolith 28/06/19 18:06:00 Hazel Dakers
      Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 29/06/19 07:29:00 Alex Shpinkov
         Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 29/06/19 07:56:00 Reg Ghosh
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 29/06/19 09:55:00 Frank DeWet
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 30/06/19 10:16:00 Neil Chippendale
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 30/06/19 16:46:00 Barry Jacques
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 30/06/19 21:49:00 Stephen Scott
      Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 01/07/19 06:33:00 Philippa Bond
         Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 04/07/19 18:14:00 Stephen Scott
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 04/07/19 18:54:00 Paul Fisher
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 04/07/19 22:48:00 N V Brooks
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 05/07/19 08:18:00 Paul Fisher
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 05/07/19 13:08:00 Stephen Scott
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 05/07/19 14:01:00 Guy Lambert
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 05/07/19 19:19:00 Emma Renton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 05/07/19 21:55:00 Neil Chippendale
   Re:Dock road car park monolith 05/07/19 20:10:00 Paul Reid
      Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 05/07/19 22:49:00 Hazel Dakers
         Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 05/07/19 23:07:00 Keith Iddon
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 06/07/19 12:12:00 Jim Linwood
   Re:Dock road car park monolith 06/07/19 07:59:00 Nichols Beard
      Is the car park17/07/19 20:26:00 Reg Ghosh
         Re:Is the car park18/07/19 09:04:00 Nichols Beard
   Re:Dock road car park monolith 27/07/19 08:46:00 Neil Chippendale
      Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 27/07/19 18:55:00 Jim Storrar
         Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 28/07/19 23:06:00 Guy Lambert
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 29/07/19 07:13:00 Nichols Beard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 29/07/19 10:06:00 Neil Chippendale
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 29/07/19 13:28:00 Guy Lambert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dock road car park monolith 29/07/19 17:07:00 Peter Evans

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