TfL will only record an incident if it involves a bus and an ambulance call out and hospital admission.  Most incidents are minor or near misses but nonetheless a horrible experience for those simply waiting, boarding or alighting a bus. Perversely and slight incident in a side street near a school and TfL wheel out a load of unverifiable incidents. So when it suits, it suits .. there or their in pocket councils. Problem is it has undermined confidence and undone the decades of work to make Public Transport safe and accessible for All. As I have said before and in writing to TfL and others, and like so many others have also raised, aspects of the designs are really poor and dangerous. Including for diligent Cyclists and paving the way for another their of Wild West reckless behaviour from too many without repercussions for them. But the repercussions for Bus Passengers are bad from near misses, verbal abuse and threats , being past at for being ' in their way', having to be in fear of getting off a bus .  Bus Drivers get the blame but never the real causes. For diligent cyclists its easier to ride in the road, avoiding the possibility of a person who may not hear the bell or see the rider, or may not be able to move out of the way easily. That's not apparent when on the bike and too many do not ride with diligence or road safe let alone footpath safe. Verbal and written warnings may be there but by default, buses will be carrying more whom have visual, agility and hearing issues not always apparent and this not always going to be heeded or seen. Unlike days of Bus Conductors when the help and spacial awareness was to hand. Trying to decant a design that is for wide multi carraigeway boulevards into British narrow and twisty 'A' and 'B' roads is a massive challenge and despite a huge amount of money being spent the basic fundamentals remain omnipresent and unsolved.  Arrogance and doctrinal management and policy has not brought about a genuine all round improvement but almost the opposite. It all looks lovely in the illustrations but the flaws and failings are a contradiction to what was achieved in previous generations with far less means to solve technical limitations. It's the closed dismissive mentality to any pragmatic criticism and the end result is always going to be half baked.

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Topic	Date Posted	Posted By
Floating bus stops not such a great idea after all	10/07/25 09:23:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Floating bus stops not such a great idea after all	10/07/25 12:39:00	Vanessa Smith
Re:Re:Floating bus stops not such a great idea after all	10/07/25 15:31:00	Jeremy Parkinson
Re:Re:Re:Floating bus stops not such a great idea after all	10/07/25 15:49:00	Anne England
Re:Re:Re:Re:Floating bus stops not such a great idea after all	10/07/25 16:34:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Floating bus stops not such a great idea after all	10/07/25 18:20:00	Raymond Havelock
Re:Re:Re:Floating bus stops not such a great idea after all	11/07/25 11:47:00	Sam Thomas
Re:Floating bus stops not such a great idea after all	11/07/25 09:29:00	Tim Barnes
Re:Re:Floating bus stops not such a great idea after all	11/07/25 16:43:00	Anne England

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