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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event
Posted by: Joseph Gerald Bourke
Date/Time: 11/05/18 10:45:00

Guy,

Not having to pay the profit margin of private contractors was part of the rationale for taking over the annual waste and recycling contract from Suez in 2016

The report on the councils overview and scrutiny meeting notes an overspend by recycling 360 – a subsidiary of Lampton 360 – of £1.4m and a capital investment of £22m that clearly incurs significant costs of capital. These increased costs have been incurred despite a reduction from weekly to fornightly waste collections while recycling rates have declined.https://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-news/hounslow-council-overspends-14-million-14501472
The Carillion management fees presumably cover the cost of providing management and administrative staff and services and not purely a profit add-on. The council may not see significant reductions in the cost of services simply by bringing them in-house.

With a reported budget overspend of £7m on the council accounts for last year, it seems reasonable to conclude “not having to pay profit margins” is not of itself going to balance the books or even necessarily lead to lower costs for service provision in many areas.
The council website information for Lampton 360 notes “Lampton Development – is a property developer established to redevelop surplus local authority land, with residential and mixed use projects.”

The Chair of Lampton 360, commenting on the Nantly House development said: “I am delighted that this project is moving forward, using local authority surplus land…This will be the first of many sites that Lampton 360 will be developing on behalf of Hounslow Council.”

Mr Curran in a recent article said “that the policy of buying up homes had not worked, saying: “When we got into the detail we found it was expensive and very time consuming." He said Lampton would now be concentrating instead on buying groups of houses or blocks of flats to try to improve on its target.
Selling off local authority surplus land for private development while right to buy continues to deplete council housing stock is not a sustainable strategy for plugging gaps in the council budget. I think much greater focus needs to given to the capture of development gains through S106 and CIL agreements with a view to maintaining council land for the development of social rent and shared ownership housing.


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Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/06/17 14:13:00 Linda Massey
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/06/17 14:20:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/06/17 14:31:00 Linda Massey
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/06/17 14:40:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/06/17 05:57:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/06/17 10:33:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/06/17 11:34:00 Nicholas Beard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/06/17 12:51:00 Linda Massey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/06/17 13:16:00 Nicholas Beard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/06/17 13:31:00 Linda Massey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/06/17 17:24:00 Guy Lambert
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event18/06/17 12:35:00 Linda Massey
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event20/06/17 17:22:00 Nicholas Beard
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event20/06/17 21:03:00 Linda Massey
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event21/06/17 10:49:00 Pat Kingham
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event22/06/17 07:32:00 Linda Massey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/06/17 18:19:00 Nicholas Beard
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/06/17 20:07:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/07/17 10:26:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/07/17 11:45:00 Pat Kingham
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/07/17 12:23:00 Linda Massey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/07/17 14:02:00 Nicholas Beard
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/07/17 14:05:00 Nicholas Beard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event11/07/17 10:16:00 Pat Kingham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event11/07/17 10:31:00 Nicholas Beard
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event11/07/17 10:39:00 Nicholas Beard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event11/07/17 11:39:00 Guy Lambert
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event11/07/17 14:42:00 Pat Kingham
                        Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event13/07/17 10:59:00 Philippa Bond
                           Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event13/07/17 11:57:00 Nicholas Beard
                              Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event13/07/17 12:43:00 Pat Kingham
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event13/07/17 12:48:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/07/17 06:40:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/07/17 06:53:00 Linda Massey
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/07/17 06:56:00 Nicholas Beard
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/07/17 07:45:00 Nicholas Beard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/07/17 09:31:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/07/17 10:20:00 Nicholas Beard
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/07/17 13:41:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event20/07/17 16:46:00 Linda Massey
      Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event23/07/17 06:45:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event21/07/17 18:52:00 Jean Harrison
      Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event21/07/17 18:55:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/08/17 06:44:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event26/09/17 10:19:00 Pat Kingham
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event27/09/17 07:38:00 Nicholas Beard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event27/09/17 08:35:00 Emma Renton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event27/09/17 08:42:00 Nicholas Beard
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event27/09/17 09:59:00 Guy Lambert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event27/09/17 10:15:00 Nicholas Beard
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/10/17 05:58:00 Nicholas Beard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/10/17 06:07:00 Emma Renton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/10/17 06:14:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/11/17 07:30:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/11/17 09:32:00 Linda Massey
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/11/17 10:11:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/12/17 06:46:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event22/12/17 13:15:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event12/01/18 06:50:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event14/01/18 14:41:00 Pat Kingham
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event14/01/18 14:59:00 Linda Massey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/01/18 06:22:00 Nicholas Beard
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/01/18 07:44:00 Nicholas Beard
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/01/18 10:38:00 Pat Kingham
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event23/01/18 07:13:00 Nicholas Beard
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event23/01/18 10:19:00 Vanessa Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/02/18 06:40:00 Nicholas Beard
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/02/18 09:09:00 Linda Massey
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/02/18 09:13:00 Emma Renton
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/02/18 09:23:00 Linda Massey
                                       Boston Manor Gates15/02/18 09:29:00 Emma Renton
                                          Re:Boston Manor Gates15/02/18 10:48:00 Pat Kingham
                                          Re:Boston Manor Gates15/02/18 16:22:00 Christopher Hugh Dakers
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/02/18 11:03:00 Nicholas Beard
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/06/18 16:51:00 Jean Harrison
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/03/18 16:50:00 Nicholas Beard
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/03/18 18:49:00 Guy Lambert
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event14/04/18 07:01:00 Nicholas Beard
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/05/18 18:12:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 06:45:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 08:03:00 Paul Fisher
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 08:22:00 Nicholas Beard
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 11:01:00 Pat Kingham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 13:07:00 Guy Lambert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 14:22:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 18:33:00 Guy Lambert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 17:22:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 18:32:00 Guy Lambert
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 13:09:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 16:57:00 Reg Ghosh
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 17:05:00 Nicholas Beard
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 18:35:00 Vanessa Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 19:08:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event10/05/18 23:59:00 Guy Lambert
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event11/05/18 10:45:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event11/05/18 10:49:00 Pat Kingham
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event11/05/18 12:52:00 Guy Lambert
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event11/05/18 14:52:00 Joseph Gerald Bourke
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event16/05/18 18:51:00 Vanessa Smith
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event17/05/18 05:59:00 Nicholas Beard
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/06/18 06:55:00 Nicholas Beard
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/06/18 11:08:00 Guy Lambert
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event15/06/18 16:52:00 Nicholas Beard
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event11/05/18 11:35:00 Emma Renton
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event20/08/18 10:48:00 Nicholas Beard
      Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event20/08/18 11:54:00 Paul Fisher
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event20/08/18 12:50:00 Linda Massey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event20/08/18 13:07:00 Nicholas Beard
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event20/08/18 13:46:00 Guy Lambert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event20/08/18 16:48:00 Nicholas Beard
   Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event20/08/18 17:22:00 Keith Iddon
      Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event18/11/18 18:02:00 Nicholas Beard
         Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event18/11/18 18:03:00 Emma Renton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event19/11/18 14:28:00 Pat Kingham
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event19/11/18 15:01:00 Guy Lambert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boston Manor Park Gates still closed  one week on from music event19/11/18 15:07:00 Emma Renton

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