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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read
Posted by: Stephen Browne
Date/Time: 14/04/09 08:21:00

1 - who does what?

And within a week the council would grind to a halt because the people at the top are too busy doing what the people under them are hired for. It is just not physically possible (time wise) for councillors to action every query they get.

I would prefer Councillor Reid to be busy on the action against the third runway than whether someone can walk a dog in a park.

There has recently been a root-and-branch assessment of staffing levels at the Council by KPMG, the results being many people losing jobs, indicating staffing levels are now compatible with the workload. But the people below the councillors are there to do the work, not have the councillors do it themselves. You don't hire a cleaner and clean yourself.

How the councillors ever get a life with all they get involved in I will never know, but they wanted to be elected.

2 - why is it done this way?

Council procedures appear overly cumbersome but in the current climate of litigation it has to be. The council has to be completely bullet-proof in every decision it makes or every process it undertakes because all it takes is one person to complain (make an accusation etc) with their lawyer in tow and the council has to defend itself through a long-winded and time consuming process.

So to eliminate those possibilities it undertakes long-winded and time consuming processes to make sure it can defend any decision or action it takes.

Example - developer puts in application, council denies application for legitimate reasons, developer appeals (throws toys out of the pram). Time, resources, money all wasted because of a petulant developer who just wants it their way.

The bureaucratic culture exists because it has to, it has been forced to, by the people the council serves.

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Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read11/03/09 18:49:00 Sarah Brownlee
   Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read13/03/09 13:17:00 Sarah Brownlee
      Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read13/03/09 15:12:00 Adam Beamish
         Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read13/03/09 15:52:00 Alistair Fergusson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read13/03/09 17:22:00 Mick Brent
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read13/03/09 20:07:00 Sarah Brownlee
         Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read13/03/09 20:01:00 Sarah Brownlee
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read13/03/09 20:41:00 Adam Beamish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read13/03/09 21:00:00 Sarah Brownlee
   Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read13/03/09 19:17:00 Matt Harmer
   Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read24/03/09 15:58:00 Beccy Thorp
      Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read25/03/09 20:46:00 Michael Brandt
         Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read25/03/09 22:08:00 Adam Beamish
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read25/03/09 23:22:00 Michael Brandt
         Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read25/03/09 22:13:00 Sarah Brownlee
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read26/03/09 11:12:00 Markus Mason
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read26/03/09 11:14:00 Markus Mason
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read26/03/09 23:27:00 Sarah Brownlee
   Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read27/03/09 23:13:00 Sarah Brownlee
      Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read28/03/09 14:09:00 Stephen Browne
         Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read28/03/09 17:49:00 Sarah Brownlee
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read29/03/09 20:40:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read29/03/09 23:19:00 Sarah Brownlee
   Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read03/04/09 10:59:00 Niel Gavin
      Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read03/04/09 13:11:00 Sarah Brownlee
         Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read03/04/09 13:15:00 Sarah Brownlee
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read03/04/09 13:59:00 Matt Harmer
   Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read03/04/09 14:52:00 Jane Chang
      Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read03/04/09 16:21:00 Adam Beamish
         Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read03/04/09 16:25:00 Sarah Brownlee
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read03/04/09 17:29:00 Adam Beamish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read03/04/09 20:51:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read09/04/09 11:54:00 Mary OConnor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read27/04/09 11:18:00 Louise John
   Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read09/04/09 13:44:00 Niel Gavin
      Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read09/04/09 17:14:00 Sarah Brownlee
         Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read09/04/09 18:29:00 Adam Beamish
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read09/04/09 22:08:00 Sarah Brownlee
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read09/04/09 22:45:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read09/04/09 22:48:00 Sarah Brownlee
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read09/04/09 23:38:00 Adam Beamish
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read10/04/09 00:36:00 Sarah Brownlee
   Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read10/04/09 00:23:00 Michael Brandt
      Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read13/04/09 21:48:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read14/04/09 08:21:00 Stephen Browne
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read14/04/09 17:16:00 Sarah Brownlee
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read14/04/09 20:07:00 Adam Beamish
         Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read14/04/09 20:47:00 Adam Beamish
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read19/04/09 16:47:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read19/04/09 17:51:00 Michael Brandt
   Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read24/04/09 18:18:00 Sarah Brownlee
      Re:Re:Dangerous Dogs - A Serious Problem, please read25/04/09 08:37:00 Steve Taylor
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