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Posted by: Adam Beamish
Date/Time: 03/02/20 17:34:00

Tracie,

I've just gone back through my various contributions to this thread, and the bulk of them (bar my response yesterday) contains lengthy points about the wider planning policy context and limitations of the associated legislation, and how both affect decisions.  Inevitably I share some personal experiences or views in the course of doing so, but there's no "me me me" here.

I simply don't like it when people, whoever they are and whatever the subject, make things up, be it about me or anyone else.  Like your claim that I'd never encountered dodgy dealings.  That made it about me, and because it was totally inaccurate it generated a reaction.  Silence would have tacitly implied you were correct.

Not a remotely defensive response I should add, more providing examples of some of the 'dodgy' behaviour I have come across, just to show that there's no suggestion on my part that everyone is whiter than white. 

All I ever try to bring to these forums is a broader awareness of the planning policy or legislative context, and yes, from a detached perspective - whether you or I agree wih it or not when planning decisions are made on appeals by independent Inspectors, that Inspector is purposely chosen on the basis that they don't live close by etc., so just because I don't live in Brentford anymore is entirely irrelevant.

Indeed, that's another example of you, not me, being the one posting about me, rather than about the subject matter.

I set out a detailed appraisal of housing issues within the capital at the moment, how the housing targets within the London Plan don't meet identified needs, how authorities on the fringes of the capital can't meet their housing land supply targets, resulting in new Local Plans identifying green belt sites for housing and so forth. 

I then happened to end that post by providing a short personal view that I don't share the 'fondness' for the capital that many people do.  You seized upon that (rather than the many preceding paragraphs) as the basis for a post suggesting I was advocating everyone move out of London.  Again, you were making it about me, which I most certainly wasn't.

We're all human, we all make mistakes, we all say the wrong things, it was harsh and unreasonable of me to call you a fool and a liar earlier - my patience ran out.  The 'test' of anyone is whether they make a mistake or not, it's how they deal with making a mistake.

The advice I always give to objectors to a planning application is to keep their objections credible and not undermine them by making wild or unsubstantiated allegations or claims that they can't back up.  Because, one an objector goes down that route, any points within their representations might might otherwise be wholly valid and credible become tainted.  And to me the same applies here. 

Personally, I couldn't care less whether I am popular or unpopular on these forums or in 'real life' - it's unlikely anyone who is sensitive to being liked or disliked would ever choose a career in planning.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
A message for L&Q - Morrisons site24/01/20 11:10:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
   Re:A message for L&Q - Morrisons site24/01/20 12:22:00 Carol Jean Lamb
      Re:Re:A message for L&Q - Morrisons site24/01/20 12:30:00 Paul Fisher
         Re:Re:Re:A message for L&Q - Morrisons site24/01/20 12:52:00 Eric Baker
            Re:Re:Re:Re:A message for L&Q - Morrisons site24/01/20 13:22:00 Keith Iddon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A message for L&Q - Morrisons site24/01/20 13:35:00 Frank DeWet
            Reply24/01/20 14:22:00 N V Brooks
               Re:Reply24/01/20 15:22:00 Pat Kingham
                  Reply24/01/20 15:56:00 N V Brooks
                     Re: A message for L&Q - Morrisons site24/01/20 16:28:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                     Re:Reply24/01/20 16:28:00 Keith Iddon
                        Re:Re:Reply25/01/20 06:38:00 Nicholas Beard
                           Re:Re:Re:Reply25/01/20 09:08:00 Raymond Havelock
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/01/20 11:41:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/01/20 12:45:00 Jennifer Selig
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply25/01/20 13:41:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/01/20 12:16:00 Adam Beamish
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/01/20 16:14:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/01/20 16:24:00 Jennifer Selig
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply26/01/20 16:25:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/01/20 19:51:00 Adam Beamish
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply28/01/20 07:48:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply28/01/20 14:53:00 Adam Beamish
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply29/01/20 07:14:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply29/01/20 09:44:00 Peter Evans
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/02/20 08:52:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/02/20 10:33:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply01/02/20 16:31:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply02/02/20 13:49:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                        Limted LA powers02/02/20 18:25:00 Peter Evans
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply03/02/20 01:28:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply03/02/20 01:33:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply03/02/20 08:46:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply03/02/20 11:07:00 Tracie Dudley Craig
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply03/02/20 17:34:00 Adam Beamish

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