| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | |
| Posted by: | Nigel Moore | |
| Date/Time: | 29/08/16 13:20:00 |
| Thanks Bernard – but that website you direct me to simply STATES 1818 as the date; there is no way of confirming that. The Thames Lock was built [contrary to statute] following complaints by bargees over limited tidal access to the Gauging Lock. Presumably, following the lock’s construction – the bridge being a further obstruction [and still is, of course, at higher tides] – the barges were queued up within the semi-tidal section waiting for their turn to get under the bridge as the water level dropped. In order to get away with the illegality of building the lock, the GJCC had to buy out the miller’s interests first [who had a lease on the property now replaced with the Boatman’s Institute]. A local landowner named Henry Hawley was the principal freeholder involved, who along with other major riparian owners had leased the riverbed of the Brent and a portion of the Butts to the miller Ralph Carter in 1746 for 150 years. By 1793 the leaseholder was a Mr Bax, and his rights to a free-running mill race were protected under the GJCC Act of 1793. In 1803 the lease [by then owned by a Mr Birnard [sic] Kidd] was assigned to William Praed, who was to hold it in trust for the GJCC. Hawley remained the freeholder. So – the GJCC could have gone ahead with building the lock any time following 1803, confident that they would be faced with no legal objections to the violation of statute. Why would they spend all that money [the sole purpose of which was to remove potential objections to building the lock], and then wait for 15 years before going ahead with the lock? All the while facing mounting vociferations from the bargees urging the lock construction in the first place? I have a copy of a deed dated 1814 showing what certainly appears to be a lock, which would be commensurate with a date earlier than the 1818 claimed. The only relevant date in 1818 that I find remotely connected in anyway with all this, is a quit-claim from Hawley on 7 August that year, consenting to the GJCC pulling down the mill – which they did not do as it happens; it stayed put into the 20thC, before being replaced with the Boatman’s Institute. So you see why I am curious about pinning down a definitive date; neither the website you linked to nor British Waterways/CaRT themselves, purport to be able to shed any light on the matter. |
| Topic | Date Posted | Posted By |
| Brentford Bridge | 25/08/16 16:41:00 | Pamela Puig |
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| Re:Brentford Bridge | 25/08/16 17:18:00 | Barry Jacques |
| Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 25/08/16 17:26:00 | Sarah Felstead |
| Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 25/08/16 17:29:00 | Sarah Felstead |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 25/08/16 17:32:00 | Barry Jacques |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 25/08/16 18:42:00 | Bernard Allen |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 26/08/16 15:47:00 | Bryan Betts |
| Re:Brentford Bridge | 25/08/16 22:49:00 | David Fernandez |
| Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 25/08/16 23:26:00 | Sarah Felstead |
| Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 02/09/16 16:07:00 | Mark Skuse |
| Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 02/09/16 20:48:00 | Bernard Allen |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 02/09/16 21:59:00 | Barry Jacques |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 02/09/16 22:10:00 | Sarah Felstead |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 02/09/16 22:10:00 | Sarah Felstead |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 05/09/16 19:59:00 | Alan Carter |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 07/09/16 17:09:00 | Sarah Felstead |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 07/09/16 19:39:00 | Barry Jacques |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 07/09/16 19:45:00 | Barry Jacques |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 07/09/16 21:39:00 | Sarah Felstead |
| Re:Brentford Bridge | 26/08/16 10:55:00 | Barry Jacques |
| Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 26/08/16 13:12:00 | Bernard Allen |
| Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 26/08/16 18:36:00 | Nigel Moore |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 26/08/16 21:12:00 | Iain Muir |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 26/08/16 21:21:00 | Sarah Felstead |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 26/08/16 21:22:00 | Bernard Allen |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 26/08/16 21:28:00 | Bernard Allen |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 26/08/16 21:54:00 | Iain Muir |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 26/08/16 22:49:00 | Sarah Felstead |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 27/08/16 10:42:00 | Raymond Havelock |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 27/08/16 12:57:00 | Bernard Allen |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 29/08/16 13:20:00 | Nigel Moore |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 29/08/16 13:26:00 | Nigel Moore |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 29/08/16 14:22:00 | Bernard Allen |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 29/08/16 22:45:00 | Nigel Moore |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 30/08/16 13:31:00 | Philip Coe |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Brentford Bridge | 30/08/16 13:48:00 | Nigel Moore |