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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?
Posted by: Raymond Havelock
Date/Time: 18/01/18 10:17:00

That though, is the point Guy.
If you want to go quickly, then the A4 is the direct route missing out all the pinch points and delays.  The Ethos of the CS is to go quickly. That's what all of the existing ones are like and why they are not for anyone other than tourists and the superset and serious uber cyclists.  For the rest of us, the equivalent of the Ford Fiesta driver, these are routes that intimidate rather than inspire.

To be frank. TfL ought to have applied the same degree of enforcement on unstable machines with inadequate road fittings and overfast and lack of
obeyance with the same zeal they do for motor vehicles that enter yellow grid boxes or bus lanes. And introduce a competence test.
That would probably have been unpopular but brought a much wider benefit and increased confidence in the CS routes.

I know you ( Guy ) Cycle a fair bit but suspect you don't use the CS routes.

Please go and try them both in morning and late afternoon. It does change one's lifelong dream.



The best bit about a bike is it's route diversity.
On a bike you can take quieter routes that avoid most delays and hazards and bypass most other road users.
I rarely cycle along Chiswick High Road or Brentford High Street even though I go down to Hammersmith quite a lot.  There are a load of easy alternatives and even scenic routes.

The time difference is negligible but the routes are so much safer as long as you use your road sense and keep your eyes and eyes open. Just the same as in a car or walking

But if I'm in a bit of a hurry or the weather is less than pleasant on the bike then I use the A4 as it does save a bit of time. When younger I could pedal up that road faster knowing I was unlikely to encounter anything that would require slower speeds.  CS9 unfortunately is simply wrong for this sort of cycling and carving through an already all too small park in Brentford, and creating Bus Islands and moving things to the detriment of pedestrians and public transport users, unacceptable.

Too high a price to pay when a better route exists less than 800m North.

The A4 is not a pretty route but it is both sensible and has great potential.

As a local rider the back routes are so much better and safer and that is where TfL ought to be investing. Sorting out the one big bugbear - Potholes and poor markings and poor lighting on ideal roads.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?17/01/18 10:13:00 Raymond Havelock
   Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?17/01/18 12:43:00 Guy Lambert
      Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?17/01/18 16:53:00 Raymond Havelock
         Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?17/01/18 17:26:00 Raymond Havelock
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?17/01/18 22:23:00 Guy Lambert
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?18/01/18 07:13:00 Alex Shpinkov
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?18/01/18 09:40:00 Guy Lambert
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?18/01/18 10:05:00 Alex Shpinkov
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?18/01/18 10:15:00 Guy Lambert
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?18/01/18 11:37:00 Alex Shpinkov
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?18/01/18 20:47:00 Guy Lambert
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?23/01/18 12:55:00 Alex Shpinkov
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?18/01/18 12:30:00 Domenico Urzi
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?18/01/18 10:17:00 Raymond Havelock
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?21/01/18 02:54:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?21/01/18 11:47:00 Raymond Havelock
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?21/01/18 14:17:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is deferring CS9 till after the election a bit of an avoidance?21/01/18 14:52:00 Raymond Havelock

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