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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation
Posted by: Phil Andrews
Date/Time: 19/02/12 22:56:00

"I understand where you're coming from but in Brentford we had Luke Kirton as a councillor. He had no desire to be one but stood for BFC and to the disgust of the Labour party at the time, he was elected. And you know what? He was bloody brilliant. Because he wasn't attached to a party. He wasn't attempting to make it a career. He wasn't trying to get free drinks at 9 in the morning from a pub that his lot had refused a license to. He was honestly trying to make the best of the position he was elected to."

100% agree with you on that Claire.  Luke was a magnificant councillor despite not being attached to a "real" political party and having no previous experience in the role to call upon.

During the 2006-2010 period in particular Peter Hills in Bedfont and Linda Nakamura in Hanworth were also very highly regarded in their respective wards, proactive in working on local issues and keeping their constituents informed at every turn.  John Connelly was acknowledged by friend and foe alike to be one of the most knowledgeable, radical and intelligent contributors to council business.  I'll let others be my judge but the ICG councillors generally were in the frontline of shaping most of the council's strategies in the field of housing and community empowerment and consistently led from the front of behalf of residents at Area Committee, usually having to take on almost everybody else in the process.

And yet according to former Welsh Secretary Peter Hain at today's Welsh Labour conference independent councillors have "no clue" and Welsh voters (and by implication other voters too) have to elect Labour councillors to do everything for them (as they presumably have no clue either).

The difference between party political and independent councillors is in my experience substantial, but not in the way Hain would like you to believe.  The truth is that the former comprise people of a wide range of abilities but all of them constrained by the whip and tribal allegiances which supersede their commitment to the wider community, whilst the latter are by nature free-thinkers and innovators who are answerable only to those they were elected to represent.


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Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation17/02/12 17:26:00 Peter McGovern
   Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation17/02/12 18:07:00 Keith Iddon
   Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation17/02/12 18:08:00 Paul Fisher
   Brentford Festival cancelled in diamond jubilee year ... :-(17/02/12 18:14:00 Sarah Felstead
      Re:Brentford Festival cancelled in diamond jubilee year ... :-(17/02/12 19:51:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Brentford Festival cancelled in diamond jubilee year ... :-(17/02/12 20:29:00 Jim Lawes
   Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation17/02/12 23:12:00 Vanessa Smith
      Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation17/02/12 23:57:00 Jim Lawes
         Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation18/02/12 00:06:00 Jim Lawes
   Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation18/02/12 10:09:00 Mari Austin
      Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation18/02/12 10:41:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation18/02/12 11:05:00 Phil Andrews
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation18/02/12 11:20:00 Paul Fisher
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 09:32:00 Karen Adams
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 15:33:00 Peter McGovern
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 19:29:00 Phil Andrews
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation20/02/12 12:58:00 Natasha Manganaro
         Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation18/02/12 11:19:00 Mari Austin
   Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation18/02/12 13:54:00 dave viney (music manager)
      Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation18/02/12 15:02:00 dave viney (music manager)
         Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation18/02/12 19:00:00 Phil Andrews
      Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation18/02/12 19:39:00 Jan Jones
      Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 15:35:00 Peter McGovern
   Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 12:52:00 Ian Silver
      Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 13:27:00 Phil Andrews
         Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 18:36:00 Jim Lawes
         Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 19:57:00 Claire Peleschka
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 20:03:00 Ian Silver
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 20:26:00 Phil Andrews
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 21:21:00 Claire Peleschka
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 21:28:00 Ian Silver
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 21:35:00 Claire Peleschka
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 21:39:00 Keith Iddon
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 21:40:00 Claire Peleschka
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation19/02/12 22:56:00 Phil Andrews
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation20/02/12 00:10:00 Claire Peleschka
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation20/02/12 10:10:00 Jim Lawes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation20/02/12 17:57:00 Antoinette McGovern
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation20/02/12 18:29:00 Paul Fisher
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation20/02/12 18:32:00 Vanessa Smith
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation20/02/12 18:40:00 Phil Andrews
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation21/02/12 14:06:00 Vanessa Smith
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation21/02/12 16:48:00 Phil Andrews
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation21/02/12 18:35:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation22/02/12 07:19:00 Phil Andrews
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation22/02/12 19:47:00 Matt Harmer
   Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation20/02/12 18:46:00 Linda Massey
      Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation20/02/12 19:28:00 Phil Andrews
         Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation20/02/12 21:01:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation21/02/12 18:46:00 Vanessa Smith
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation22/02/12 00:24:00 Phil Andrews
         Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation21/02/12 20:46:00 Peter McGovern
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation22/02/12 00:33:00 Phil Andrews
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation22/02/12 07:39:00 Paul Fisher
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation22/02/12 10:55:00 Richard Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation22/02/12 22:46:00 Jan Jones
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation22/02/12 23:59:00 Jim Lawes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation23/02/12 00:31:00 Matt Harmer
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation23/02/12 01:31:00 Phil Andrews
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation23/02/12 07:35:00 Paul Fisher
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation24/02/12 12:29:00 Jan Jones
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation23/02/12 08:55:00 Richard Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation23/02/12 10:03:00 John Bradley
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation23/02/12 17:21:00 Phil Andrews
                        Public Liability for the Brentford Festival23/02/12 09:45:00 Linda Massey
   Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation23/02/12 19:54:00 Helen Walker
      Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation23/02/12 20:50:00 Andrew Sibley
         Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation24/02/12 01:25:00 Jan Jones
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation24/02/12 12:41:00 Jan Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation24/02/12 14:12:00 Jim Lawes
   Re:Sad news about Brentford Festival cancellation27/02/12 20:45:00 Sven Asen

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