We have repeatedly asked the Council for information on the current status of the linked sites at the police building in Half Acre and the Watermans/Max Factor building. No information has been given. The Brentford Masterplan provides no clarity. Regarding the police site, the Masterplan says that "An up-to-date feasibility study identifying the appropriate mix of cultural space should be undertaken to inform new proposals". Other statements from the Council have mentioned the appointment of a project officer, and the preparation of a "Draft Business Case and Financial Strategy". Rumour and speculation thrive in the vacuum of ignorance. Come on Hounslow, what is the current state of play? There are, of course, concerns relating to commercial sensitivity and the current state of the housing market, but what is your vision for the future of arts and culture generally in Brentford and for the Arts Centre in particular? What follows below may do no more than stoke the fires of rumour and speculation! The companies involved in this melee include London Green, Yellowscape, Bluescape, and Topland. All of these are very closely related, and they have director(s) in common. Bluescape got their planning permission in March 2021 for the Watermans/Max Factor site ("Albany Riverside"). This permission includes 193 flats. The freehold of the entire (now very valuable) site rests with LB Hounslow. A lease of the Max Factor building was sold to Bluescape for £5.5 m. in 2014. This lease expires in 2044. In 2014 the Met Police sold the freehold of the police site in Half Acre to Yellowscape for £9 m. In 2021, the site gained planning consent for 105 homes (including 60 affordable homes) built over a new Arts Centre. In 2017, the cost of constructing and fitting-out the new Arts Centre alone was estimated to be £11.3 m. The cost today would be much much more. Yellowscape's planning permission is due to expire in April 2024. They are now about to demolish the low-rise extension on the NW corner of the site. This cunning ruse will ensure that their planning permission does not expire in April. The Section 106 Agreement includes the requirement that not more than 50% of the homes at Albany Riverside will be occupied until the new arts centre has been completed and fitted out to specification. We don't yet know what the specification is. Will it include a first class theatre, cinema screen(s), exhibition space etc.? Follow the money?

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Topic	Date Posted	Posted By
Wareman's.	10/11/23 21:31:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Waterman's	10/11/23 21:39:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Waterman's	11/11/23 08:36:00	Guy Lambert
Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	11/11/23 10:18:00	Raymond Havelock
Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	11/11/23 10:22:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	11/11/23 13:00:00	Anne England
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	11/11/23 13:25:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	11/11/23 16:12:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	17/11/23 10:25:00	Jeremy Parkinson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	17/11/23 11:59:00	Jeremy Parkinson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	14/03/24 18:00:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	15/03/24 10:26:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	15/03/24 12:32:00	Guy Lambert
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	15/03/24 14:03:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	15/03/24 15:59:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	15/03/24 16:07:00	Guy Lambert
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	15/03/24 16:13:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	16/03/24 10:14:00	Jim Storrar
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	16/03/24 10:26:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	17/03/24 08:19:00	Guy Lambert
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	17/03/24 08:50:00	Raymond Havelock
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	17/03/24 09:17:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	17/03/24 12:18:00	Andrew Buckland
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	17/03/24 16:23:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	17/03/24 16:27:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Waterman's	18/03/24 01:03:00	Guy Lambert
Bye, bye Waterman's	20/03/24 19:46:00	Susan Kelly
Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	20/03/24 20:05:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	20/03/24 20:15:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	20/03/24 20:20:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	20/03/24 21:22:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	20/03/24 23:02:00	Jeremy Parkinson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	20/03/24 23:15:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	21/03/24 08:09:00	Jeremy Parkinson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	21/03/24 08:29:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	21/03/24 08:46:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	21/03/24 16:43:00	Jeremy Parkinson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	21/03/24 17:19:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	21/03/24 19:45:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	22/03/24 17:29:00	Hazel Dakers
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	22/03/24 18:35:00	Jim Lawes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	22/03/24 20:30:00	Susan Kelly
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	23/03/24 09:04:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	23/03/24 11:26:00	Guy Lambert
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	23/03/24 13:33:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	23/03/24 15:35:00	Guy Lambert
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bye, bye Waterman's	24/03/24 10:08:00	David Cook
Re:Wareman's.	24/03/24 13:21:00	Rosemary Ward
Re:Re:Wareman's.	27/03/24 13:30:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	27/03/24 13:58:00	Paul Fisher
Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	27/03/24 16:50:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	28/03/24 08:49:00	Jeremy Parkinson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	28/03/24 10:35:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	28/03/24 14:39:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	28/03/24 16:45:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	28/03/24 18:10:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	28/03/24 19:24:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	29/03/24 10:01:00	Jeremy Parkinson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	29/03/24 10:25:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	29/03/24 14:15:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	29/03/24 17:04:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	31/03/24 09:02:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	31/03/24 18:27:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	31/03/24 20:59:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	31/03/24 21:11:00	Anne England
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	01/04/24 14:33:00	Guy Lambert
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	02/04/24 09:35:00	Jeremy Parkinson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	03/04/24 13:13:00	Robert Ayres
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	03/04/24 17:05:00	Anne England
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	03/04/24 21:18:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	04/04/24 09:09:00	Keith Iddon
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	04/04/24 16:55:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	04/04/24 17:53:00	Jeremy Parkinson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	04/04/24 20:20:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	05/04/24 09:14:00	Jeremy Parkinson
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	05/04/24 14:00:00	Guy Lambert
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	18/04/24 16:51:00	Jeremy Parkinson
Re:Wareman's.	07/04/24 11:16:00	Eric Alan Leach
Re:Re:Wareman's.	07/04/24 17:37:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	08/04/24 05:46:00	Eric Alan Leach
Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	08/04/24 09:15:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	08/04/24 11:08:00	Jim Lawes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	08/04/24 11:41:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	08/04/24 13:53:00	Jim Lawes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	08/04/24 17:22:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	10/04/24 20:02:00	David Cook
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	21/04/24 12:47:00	Eric Alan Leach
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	21/04/24 14:24:00	Simon Hayes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	21/04/24 15:31:00	Jim Lawes
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Wareman's.	21/04/24 18:54:00	Chris Dakers

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